UFOs - Where do they come from? Why are they here? How do they operate? Part 2 of 2

UFOs - Where do they come from? Why are they here? How do they operate? Part 2 of 2

Canada

Early Canadian studies of UFOs included Project Magnet (1950–1954) and Project Second Storey (1952–1954), supported by the Defence Research Board.

The Department of National Defence (DND) has dealt with sightings and investigations of UFOs across Canada.  DND conducted investigations into crop circles in Duhamel, Alberta.  (The marks appeared in a farmer's field in 1967, and varied from five to seven inches wide, and the smallest circular mark was 31 ft., 9 in. in diameter.  Three of the rings were essentially circular, with the largest mark being slightly elliptical, varying from 34 ft., 5 in. to 36 ft., 3 in.  There were no exhaust blasts, scorch marks or disturbances of the soil, and vegetation within the circles had apparently been removed by the object that made the marks.  The official investigation report implies that the marks were most likely left by a 135-ton aircraft or spacecraft.

Falcon Lake

The Falcon Lake incident in Manitoba occurred when Stefan Michalak saw several unusual silver objects cross the sky in Manitoba’s Whiteshell Provincial Park.  Michalak was perplexed by what he saw, so he walked over and touched the side of the object.  It was so hot, and it burned his glove.  That’s when, rather suddenly, the object shot back into the sky.  “Then this thing took off and blasted a hot gas on him, setting his clothes on fire, injuring him and then giving him some burns on his abdomen as well,” his friend Rutkowski said.  Investigations were carried out by the RCMP, the Canadian Forces and U.S. officials. None have conclusively determined what happened.  The Royal Canadian Mint has produced a $20 silver coin to commemorate the event.

UFO Coin, Shag Harbour

The Royal Canadian Mint has issued an innovative glow-in-the-dark coin that captures the eerie scene more than 50 years ago when an officially documented UFO crashed into the waters off Shag Harbour in southwestern Nova Scotia.  Handout by The Royal Canadian Mint.

UFO coin, Clarenville

1978 UFO sighting in the skies of Clarenville, Newfoundland and Labrador, commemorative coin.

Corona and Roswell

In a document written by Stanton Friedman for his presentation to MUFON 2000, he summed up his stand on both Roswell and the Operation Majestic 12 documents:

"As the initial civilian investigator of the Roswell Incident beginning with a conversation with Lydia Sleppy in the early 1970s, and then later with Major Jesse Marcel (1978), Walter Haut and a host of other Roswell witnesses, I have been completely convinced by overwhelming evidence that the United States Government recovered wreckage of at least 2 crashed alien flying saucers in New Mexico in early July 1947.  One debris field was on the Foster Ranch operated by M. Brazel about 75 miles Northwest of Roswell.  The other event took place at the same time in the Plains of San Augustin west of Magdalena and Socorro, New Mexico."

Operation Majestic 12

Stanton stated, "I am...convinced that the Original MJ-12 Documents (The Eisenhower Briefing Document (EBD) date 18 November 1952; The Truman-Forrestal Memor (TF) of 24 Sep 1947, and the Cutler-Twining (CT) Memo of 14 July 1954), are indeed genuine and the most important classified documents ever leaked to the public... (while) many others that have turned up are most certainly fraudulent."

As this is a major item in any discussion on visitors, I asked the group for more details.  “What can you tell us about what actually happened and on what was found?  What is the present status of the debris and the remains that were found?  Where are they kept, how much and how many have been recovered and what is being done with them?”

Open sources and other readings have led to the following story.  On 18 November 1952 American president-elect Dwight D. Eisenhower was briefed about the crash of a visitor disc near Roswell, New Mexico.[254]  A number of investigative organizations and studies were set up to look into this, and possibly other incidents.  Such studies included Project SIGN, established in December 1947, and the formation of the government group previously mentioned that was designated “Majestic-12.”  These studies were followed in turn by Project GRUDGE in December 1948, and later by the study called Project BLUE BOOK.[255]

“What do you know about these reports and what was their real purpose?”  I don’t have much in the way of answers from the group on this subject, but other writers have covered more of the history, and for this portion of the discussion we need to go back to Kenneth Arnold’s initial sighting.  Michael Hessemann and Philip Mantle detailed the first official sighting of UFOs as follows:

“On 24 June 1947” at 14:47 (hours), while flying over Mount Rainier, (Washington state), private pilot “Kenneth Arnold sighted a formation of nine objects “flying in a straight line one behind the other, the largest in the middle.”  With amazement he noted that the flying objects did not seem to have any protrusions – whether bulges, wings, or tails.  They looked far more like flat discs, rounded in the front and a bit d and slightly curved at the stern.  And they radiated a bright bluish white light.”  He later calculated their speed at “over 1700 miles per hour.”  He added that the discs were “flat as a plate and so smooth they reflected the sun like a mirror…The things flew like saucers when you make them skip on a lake.”[256]

Kenneth Arnold's report to Army Air Force (AAF) intelligence, dated 12 July 1947, which includes annotated sketches of the typical craft in the chain of nine objects.

My question to the group (as yet unanswered) is the same as that asked by Stanton Friedman of other investigators.  “What part did visitors play in the 24 June 1947 sighting by Kenneth Arnold, a civilian pilot flying over the Cascade Mountains in the State of Washington, when he observed nine flying disc-shaped aircraft traveling in formation at a high rate of speed?[257]

I would also add this additional question on the same theme, “What other sightings and reports exist or have taken place prior to or in the same era as this first “widespread” report, that you were part of?”

Although I do not have solid answers for these questions, Captain Bruce Cathie, a former Air New Zealand pilot claims to have sighted “a strange craft in the skies of Mangere, Auckland in 1952.”  Four years later he saw a second one, a bright green disc about 610 metres/2000’ long, cruise across the sky at an altitude of 4,000’, leaving two crescent-shaped vapor trails in its wake.  Halfway across Cook Strait, a small object shot down from the craft and disappeared.”  The trajectory of the object persuaded Cathie that “the module must be under intelligent guidance.  Then, in a flash of light, the disc itself disappeared.”  Cathie began years of study on the subject of UFOs and in the process came up with a mathematical calculation which “showed that the speed of light amounts to 144,000 minutes per arc per second.”  This led to the suggestion that the figure of 144,000 in the books of Mayan and Egyptian prophecy, and in the Bible, may refer to those who “radiate light,” from their forehead (the halo effect).[258]

Jose Argulles spoke of the light in his book, The Mayan Factor.  “Then came the return of the light, in that seventh year which became the first of the seven years of prophecy…”[259]

With the number of crashes and accidents the visitors experienced, they must have had rescue forces or damage control teams in place.  This leads me to ask the group, “How did visitors handle these reports in the past?  Did you attempt to cover them up, ignore them completely, or use people (Men-in-Black (MIB) for example), to provide misinformation?  Have you suppressed these reports, or do we just lack sufficient information to make a decent assessment?  If the reports have been suppressed, how is this done, who does it for you and where are these reports now?”

MIB are a very strange breed of visitor.  They are “almost invariably dressed in black,” and have “posed in all manner of guises, all the way from FBI or CIA agents and military personnel, to insurance brokers or electric power or phone inspectors.”  One was described as “a most extraordinary person, almost seven feet tall, with a small head, dead white skin, an enormous frame but pipe-stem limbs.  His tight pants had ridden up his skinny legs and (it appeared that) he had a green wire issuing from his sock and going up his pant’s leg, into his flesh at two points which were bridged over with about an inch of scar tissue.”[260]

Variations on the MIB theme are visitors who have been described as “Bogus Social Workers” or BSW.  Like the MIB, the BSW take on a role of an official and intimidate people (generally those who have witnessed a UFO), often targeting children.[261]

Planet X

It has been theorized that a tenth planet exists (see the references to the Dogons), but possibly because of its orbit, we haven’t discovered it yet.  The sources were therefore asked, “Is there is a tenth planet beyond Pluto, and if so, does it have a long elliptical orbit?”

They have not responded.  Joseph McMoneagle, however, predicts that “Planet X, the tenth planet in our solar system, will be verified in the year 2015.  It will have an elliptical orbit with a mean distance from the Sun of 51.50 AU, and a density approximately equal to that of Mercury.  The discovery will be a result of modifications to an Earth-bound telescope of more than twelve meters, which has not yet been completed (constructed).”[262]

“What is your planet called, and can we see it from Earth?”

This is where Mac’s visitors became very vague and evasive.  They indicated that their answers in this case were purposely superficial and they would consider answering some more questions on the subject during another session.

Our Origins

Going into the business of determining our origins, I have examined the data being put forward by anthropological historians and some of their current theories in order to compose some interesting questions.  “There is a theory that all anatomically modern humans have descended from a single female who lived roughly 140,000 years ago (or perhaps even more recently) in the Kalahari Desert.  (This is the so-called “Eve hypothesis”).  For that matter, the ages on Earth of Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon man seem to have overlapped.  Can you tell us how the different types of mankind evolved and whether visitors were involved?”  

Tashni insists that “man did not evolve.”

Neale Donald Walsch asked a similar question, and in his book “Conversations with God,” received the following reply.  “You are not natives of this planet you now call home…The “genetic stuff” of which you are made was placed on your planet deliberately.  It didn’t just “show up” there by accident.  The elements that have formed your life didn’t combine themselves through some process of biological serendipity.  There was a plan involved.  There is something much bigger going on here.”[263]

Silvia Browne’s guides point out that, “The colonization was made on this planet millions of years ago when these planetary entities were sent.  The first set came as adults and failed miserably because of disease and the plant’s terrain.  Future groups succeeded.”[264]

Still on this line of questioning, I asked them, “Were we just another experiment and is this how the visitors still see us?”

Norm replied that “this planet has been inhabited by races and civilizations going back through time for millions of years.  Some societies were advanced, some were primitive, and none have yet achieved both the spiritual advancement and technical maturity required to move ahead.  It has always been one or the other.  Every couple of thousand years the visitors lay the groundwork for another experiment.  This is not necessarily the place to get it right, as this is a young planet.”

“Have you been able to mate with us, and if so, how has this worked out?”

Tashni states “yes, very well.”  Mac states that an advance party from another planet came here many years ago and has since been assimilated into our people and is now “lost.”

I asked the others in the group, “Can you confirm this?”

Tashni states that the advance party is “not lost, but now awakening through keyed geometric awakenings, (such as the codes that are being found in newly produced crop circles).  Once made, energy is transmitted and the awakening begins.  It is genetically coded.”  Norm states that “we can not exist in exactly the same dimensional reference that they do.  There has to be a shift and it has to be very carefully controlled.  Their own form is not like it is when we are gone as it is when we are with them.”

Crop Circles

On the subject of crop circles, Ruth Montgomery’s guides state that “some were indeed made by extraterrestrials who are leaving messages for other outer-space beings.  The beautifully formed ones have been done by scientific methods not yet understood on Earth.  As we look ahead we see a speeding up of visitations by outer-space beings, so this should quicken the discoveries that will lead to further preparation for the shift…”[265]

Silvia Browne’s guides state that, “The crop circles are a map of the galaxy from where the Andromedans come.”[266]

Gregg Braden states that the complex Crop Circles “appearing in cereal grains throughout the world are irrefutable images based upon mathematical constants, sacred and ancient symbols of the indigenous populations, genetic information and sacred geometric patterns…Crop circles have been reported in every nation that grows cereal grain crops.”[267]

Health

“How good is your health and what affects it here that is different from your home?  What medical compatibility’s and dissimilarities are there between each of the different visitors and us?”

Mac says “cures for diseases have been found, but adds information that the visitors are also affected by diseases that do not affect us, although they have found cures for these.”  Tashni states that “disease is a human affliction caused by emotion.  We have our own, but it is never a concern.”   Tashni also firmly states that “we are not the same.”

Richard Saunder indicated that, “In many cases, those who have alleged themselves to have been abducted report that they were subjected to a variety of procedures that would resemble, however darkly, some sort of medical examination.  There are many reports of sperm and ova samples being taken.  Various cuts, scars and scoop marks are said to be the result of alien probing of human bodies.  And in many cases, people report being laid on some sort of examining table and having their bodies scanned with some sort of high tech equipment that is used to examine them from head to toe, in somewhat the same manner that Magnetic Resonance Imagers (MRIs) are used today.”[268]

This kind of information reminds me of some of the entities that one can find in the books by J.R.R. Tolkien.  “Something was coming up behind them.  What it was could not be seen:  it was like a great shadow, in the middle of which was a dark form, of man-shape maybe, yet greater; and a power and terror seemed to be in it and go before it…A Balrog is come…the dark figure streaming with fire raced towards them.  “Over the bridge!” cried Gandalf, recalling his strength.  “Fly!  This is a foe beyond any of you.  I must hold the narrow way.  Fly!”…The Balrog reached the bridge…Gandalf stood in the middle of the span, leaning heavily on the staff in his left hand, but in his other hand Glamdring gleamed, cold and white.  His enemy halted again, facing him, and the shadow about it reached out like two vast wings…Fire came from its nostrils.  But Gandalf stood firm.  “You cannot pass,” he said.[269]

“It was a Balrog of Morgoth,” said Legolas, “of all elf-banes the most deadly, save the One who sits in the Dark Tower.”[270]

“Indeed I saw upon the bridge that which haunts our darkest dreams, I saw Durin’s Bane,” said Gimli in a low voice, and dread was in his eyes.”[271]

Cures and Quality of Life

“Can you tell us how to cure Cancer and other terrible sicknesses, and will you be able to teach us how to improve the quality of life here?”

Tashni states “yes, but you like your diseases.”  

“What causes the things that hurt us or infect us, and how can we combat them?”

Tashni’s simple and straightforward answer is “fear.”

“Who issues the commands and orders to your pods, ships and units of visitors and how is this done?  Do you have a military “ranking” system?  What is your leader called, as in Prime Minister, President, King, Number One and so on?

Norm replied that, “in star wars terms, the force looks after all that.  There is no democracy in the sense that we practice it.  There are no leaders in the sense that we think of them.  Those who lead are the ones who make the best decisions.  If you are the leader of a galactic empire, one bad decision and your career is over.  None the less, some leaders have held their positions for thousands of years.  People are born to do what they do.  We need only allow them to be who they are.  The tragedy is that at times through ignorance and prejudice, sometimes people are denied the right to be themselves.  It is our loss.”

“Is there a way to undo the damage?”

“Everything can be known by sitting and listening.  But those who can tell you what you need to know, rarely talk.  There is a relationship between knowledge and respect.”

Richard Saunder indicates that, “Some “alien abductees” do, in fact, report seeing other human beings during their abductions, human beings who appear to be involved in, or cooperating with the perpetrators of the abduction.  In some cases these other humans have reportedly been in military uniform.”[272]

According to Reg Miller’s guides, “the government has the military working on its own version of a flying disc.  The design evolved from a study of several alien spacecraft, one of which was recovered almost intact because the Travelers in the craft were susceptible to the microbes in the air and died.  In that case, the bodies were retrieved and taken away by the Travelers.  The craft, however, was left because the Travelers feared infection themselves.  Only the interior portion of the craft was damaged.  Another recovered craft was damaged on the exterior (the Roswell incident) and technicians recognized that the two craft had similar origins.  Yet another craft was flown to Area 51 by the Zetas, who helped engineers for many years try to understand the technology.  Engineering knowledge gained from these craft has yielded less than the desired results.”[273]

Other Worlds

“What are the conditions like on most of the other habitable worlds?”

Norm indicated that, “there would only be shortages if they didn’t have control of all aspects of their existence.  Most planets have over time learned what the optimum number of inhabitants is, and they stick to it.  We are one of the few that has a major overpopulation problem.”

“Is water the same on your planet as it is here?”

Norm mentioned a shortage of water.  “The water is for psychic use.  Water picks up the vibration of whatever is immersed in it.  Each planet must be physically self-supporting.  Whatever is taken from here is taken for other reasons.”

“What is your long term plan or aim in connection with our planet?”

Tashni indicated that they are in the “finalization stage of the experiment.”

“What do you see happening to us and our future way of life?”

Tashni believes that it will be an, “evolution.”

“What is the main reason that our worlds are not openly communicating and dealing with each other at this time?

Tashni responded again with the word, “fear.”

“Is there more that you could add or comment on that is important to know and that hasn’t been asked here?”

Tashni suggests that “there are a number of answers to questions, dependent on who is answering and from what perspective.”  Some answers come from the perspective of a visitor, while others come from a higher energetic source.  The answers are very different, because so much of their response is based on belief systems and not just the physical thing of visitors and where things are.  This line of thought includes the Pleiadians, Sirius and Sirius B and others.

Other Systems

I asked the group to ask the visitors, “what can you tell us about the other places that you have visited?”  Tashni responded with an open-ended question of her own.  “What do you want to know?”   Norm mentioned that he had “personal knowledge of the dark star in the Sirius system long before it was discovered.”  He added that this “came not as a result of a direct conversation, but as a result of a question he himself had asked about where one particular group of them came from.”  He added that “the visitors are not fond of reciting technical information, and they are not allowed to reveal information beyond the scope of their particular mission.  If you catch them off guard with a question they may get back to you later with it, or they may just ignore it.”  Why they do so in each case is something he can only speculate about.  On the question I had asked about the missing planet, he stated that there are some that have theorized that the “tenth” planet is artificial, and that “there are many universes with planets with multiple Suns and Moons.”

Tashni readily acknowledges that I dislike incomplete or less than forthcoming answers, but she explained that when she links in with the visitors, she “needs to hear, (no, rather that she needs to know), why?”  For her, there appears to be a reluctance to share some of this information, which is why she mentions that “disinformation is easy to do.”  As she wrote this, she told me that she had to ask herself, “why?  It is as much a protection for them…not necessarily from us, but from others.  There are so many layers.  In some instances, it is done so as not to confuse us with the bigger picture of what it is that we do.”

I had asked Tashni to comment on the material presented here from the heart.  After she read through the responses I had recorded, she told me that she felt that it was important to tell the reader where the people we are conversing with are coming from. Tashni informs me that for her part, when she speaks, “some of it appears to come from direct knowledge,” from her “sense of being with these people for a period of time.”  There is another part of her that “comes by this information from a more spiritual level than perhaps the reader wants.  There are many levels to this information.  Some of it is sexy, (the information on UFO’s for example), but it is all based on a higher authority.”

Other Civilizations

My next question went deeper into the purpose of the visitors and their nature. “Are the visitors violent or friendly, primitive or more advanced, and are there other civilizations just like ours?  If so, how is everyone interacting?”

Tashni responded with a short “OK,” but then added that they are “very different, so not comparable.”  Norm stated that “there are three groups.  The “blast them all to hell” group; the “nurture on to infinity” group; and the “intervene when necessary” group.”  As far as his sources are concerned, “the status of this planet is such that the authorization to intervene can be given to someone with the equivalent rank of a hospital orderly,” let alone someone “who is actually military.”  From a visitor’s point of view, “this place is really hot,” therefore out of necessity the “intervention when necessary” crew has held sway for about two thousand years.  He explained that this “was because the “nurture” crew who held sway could not advance the population of this planet.”  So the “blast them all to hell” guys are really confident that their turn is coming.  There are about 50 million nurture types presently here now in Earth bodies posing as locals, trying to get this thing turned around.”  Norm doesn’t think our planet is going to get “blasted,” but on the other hand, he didn’t think that after another ten years in our present state that it will be “business as usual” either.

Following this train of thought, I went on to ask them more about this.  “Do visitors feel that they have to protect themselves from us, or others like us, and if so, who and why?”

Norm replied that “the Joint Intergalactic Command (JIO) protects all non-space faring systems (including this one).  Migrations from one system to another are tolerated only in the most severe circumstances.  The pirates are not violent.  They take what they need from systems they have no right to enter.  For example, it would be illegal for a mining ship from another system to come here and mine one of our minerals.  This planet is not approved for unauthorized visitation.  A lot of ships come here for water, a very scarce commodity on many, many planets.  Some of them have gone through the proper channels.  Others just sort of pop in on their way from somewhere to somewhere else.  More common is a visitor coming here with authorization to refuel and in the process, decides to pick up something else while they are here or they use their craft to buzz the locals etc.  These kinds of activities are not sanctioned by any legitimate authority, and they are therefore regarded as pirate or renegade actions.  The top level of technology and development is so far ahead of the pirates that nothing goes undiscovered.  But like kids in a candy store, sometimes visitors just can’t resist.”

Concerning mining operations, Ken Eagle Feather was informed that, “their vessels go below Earth and leave no external marks…the mining is done in out of the way areas, isolated from habitation.  One would find actual openings in the Earth if one found the mining sites.  Since extraterrestrials operate in the physical, they need a physical power source.  Their power systems are alien to our thinking.  Zinc and phosphorous…are economically better to get from Earth.”[274]

Ancient Battle

Norm’s most intriguing statement (or at least to me, the most “profound” comment) was that “there was a very serious conflict far back in time near here.”  He added, “the feeling is that these (opposing forces) were humans that had migrated so far out into space that they were not in touch with the rest of us, rather than a whole different universe.  That is the positive spin.  The negative one is that they were crossbred between us and something else that we don’t know about.  This planet holds many more secrets than even we could give ourselves credit for.  The shamans here know about more strange things that occur here than almost anywhere else.  This place is crawling with unknown intelligence’s and entities.”

I specifically asked Donna if she could provide some insight into this ancient battle said to have been fought over Earth long before our time between beings with DNA and beings without it, possibly in other dimensions, as reported by Norm.  Donna went into a very deep trance state.  When she came back, she described what she had experienced in trying to find an answer, in this way.  Michael had covered her in what seemed to be a foot thick concrete-like layer of protective light.  Her guides were already responding to the question before I had asked it.  She stated that she had the impression that the guides were saying something to the effect that “he’s going to ask her that question now,” and off they went.  When she felt herself approaching the destination that they were bringing her to, she told me that it seemed as though she was looking through a tear in the wall of light into great blackness.  The tear snapped shut, and Michael told her that they couldn’t go there at this time.  She suggested that with rest, she would like to try to gain an answer to the question again, because she had never had this kind of experience before.  She also said that she couldn’t hear my question as I was asking it, and told Michael that she was concerned about this. He had told her that she was not to worry, and then she said that he behaved as though the guides knew what was coming, and were responding by saying, “OK, he’s going to ask that question, this is going to be a long journey.”  For Donna, being taken somewhere she had never been in her Channel State to answer a question before it had been asked, was quite an unusual experience.

In a follow-on session where I sent the questions and received the answers on a cassette tape by mail, I asked Donna again about this dark place and the ancient battle.  “Can you tell me something about the ancient event (battle far back in time) I have described and why it strikes such a significant cord?”  The guides responded through her as follows:

“At the passing of the many who were killed in this battle, there was a great outcry of terror.  The damage that was done to humans.  There were those among the ones that did the damage, that enjoyed it.  And as the humans watched themselves be tortured and destroyed, they felt (the) pleasure that (it) had brought the ones who actioned it, and the terror that rose inside of them.  For they realized that their pain was causing pleasure, and that that could only mean one thing, that this being who enjoyed such pleasure from such pain would only seek to wreak more pain.  And the deaths became laboured and drawn out, and it was almost as if terror bled into the earth, and left its mark in this place, and that is why to this day it strikes a cord in those who visit it.  Those who are sensitive to the earth.  It is like a wound that is not healed.  Festered.  Such terror was implanted here, and others who seek to create fear, cause battles to be formed here again.  Even simple arguments between persons within this range.  Within the range of the energy of this place.  They can invoke terror.  Accessing.  One moment please.  The concern is that terror not be created again.  The concern is that those that inflicted the pain, found pleasure in it…this is a place that needs much forgiveness, and healing.  And many who were involved in the battle that are now in incarnate form again will be drawn at some point in their journey to this place geographic, and will have to go through forgiveness, and a release of their part in the terror.  Victimhood is strong here, and it is one of the vestiges on the earth that must be cleansed, for it is where victimhood is stored.  The power to be victim, the energy of victim, is stored here.  Do you understand our words?  Amen to you then.  We offer this to you for your guidance, for your counsel.”[275]

This reminded me of Biblical history, wherein one can read that “there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.  And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.”[276]

According to Roger Kerr and Elora Gabriel, there are many different worlds that have been conquered by the Reptilians, and there are many different ways in which they accomplished it.  When asked how many worlds there were that had been taken over by the Reptilians, the answer was “millions.”  When asked how many worlds there were that were still free from their control, the answer was “hundreds.”  The Dracos eventually made their way to the Andromeda Galaxy where they conquered a major planet or  “Home World” and took control of a “Blue Crystal Portal,” which was apparently a major intergalactic portal.  They then proceeded to use this portal to go through it and into the Milky Way Galaxy.   From Andromeda they then made their way into this Galaxy, although they apparently first came to Lyra through a major portal there.  They did not, however, remain there, but proceeded to move on to Capella in the constellation Auriga where they still reside.   The Dracos were the first of the Reptilian races to enter the Milky Way Galaxy, but they were soon followed by the Orions, Anunnaki, the Alcyones and other races.[277]

Norm stated that in his view, the preservation of our “security comes from being good people, and not from acting scared because there is a threat but by being trusting and curious.  People who are more trusting and curious than you tend to be more spiritually advanced so you are always safe.  The universe is full of paradoxes and riddles.”

Carl Sagan noted that, “There are those who say we should not inquire too closely into who else might be living in that darkness (of space).  Better not to know, they say.”[278]

He added that, “Here and there, peppered across space, orbiting other suns, maybe there are worlds something like our own, on which other beings gaze up and wonder as we do about who else lives in the dark.  Could the Milky Way be rippling with life and intelligence – worlds calling out to worlds – while we on Earth are alive at the critical moment when we first decide to listen?”[279]

Difficulties

If the visitors are so advanced, (I thought, and then asked), “what kinds of problems pose difficulties for them?  Do you have problems with technological upgrades and development, or difficulties in dealing with other visitors and inhabitants while you are here?  What are your political, medical, ethical and intellectual concerns?  Can we communicate with other visitors through you?”

Tashni responded by stating that they are “not comparable.”  Norm stated that “they are concerned with the growth and development of consciousness.  There is a level of consciousness that goes way beyond the single individual.  It is the hope of many races to migrate into those realms en mass rather than one at a time, which is what seems to be the Christian model.  The mechanics of this migration are inconceivable.  It involves the mechanics of the time lines, (which are the medium of time travel) and the threads of consciousness that go everywhere.”

Carl Sagan stated that, “After billions of years of biological evolution – on their planet and ours – an alien civilization cannot be in technological lockstep with us…if they are ahead of us, they’re likely to be far ahead of us…  (Our) quest is called the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI) and…figuring out the message, if we are fortunate enough to receive one, may be much easier than acquiring it.”[280]

Timelines

I continued to ask my friends a number of “side-bar” types of questions.  “Do you use a concept of dating and time that can be applied to match our system?”

Donna’s guides stated that time does not exist as we understand it, and that it is vertical, not horizontal.  Tashni said, “no, we do not share your cycles of time.”  She did add, however, that “pilots do suffer a bit from stress due to travel.”  Norm “noted that the heart determines the human bio clock.  Baring disease, you have a fixed number of heartbeats.  Time travel has nothing to do with it.  Each time traveling ship has a bio clock on board, just so everyone knows where he or she really is in his or her life cycle.  A lot of life spans are from 800 to 1000 years.  The larger the craft and the more primitive the technology, the longer it takes.  A craft the size of the Moon would have to be a transportation vehicle involved in some type of migration mission.  From time to time species are moved around, dropping off a few here, picking up a few there, and so on.  For some of these species, some form of “natural” habitat must be maintained.”

Dates and Geological Occurrences

Taking a change of direction in the flow of questions and answers, I presented each of my interviewees a set of different points for general discussion.  “Could you help us to date events and geological occurrences from our past, as well as more recent historical events here on Earth?”

Tashni stated that “you do this yourself.”  Norm stated that “they have remote viewing technology that is capable of monitoring us in the past and present.  However large amounts of human history are fabricated by historians and you could look a long time before you received any corroboration.”

“Can you tell us how far back in our time the ice age and the changes in the rotations of the Earth occurred?”

Tashni of course had to ask, “why would you want to know that?”  Norm responded by stating that “the remote viewers are used for education.  At present they are a restricted technology, expensive to build, and not everyone can have one.  They are kind of like atomic accelerators.  The universe, past and future, is not solid, preconceptions are harmful to all, flexibility is everything, the past is as open ended and as pliable as the future.  People must be prepared to understand what they are seeing.  It’s a sort of plasmic representation of the events that make up human consciousness, the living changing memories of the whole of mankind.  I have a feeling that what you are asking to see does not exist.  You want to have a stable past so that you can view it.  There are as many past probabilities as there are future ones, and there are just as many probable presents.  Just what is it that you would like to view?”

This question was not as simple to answer as it sounded.  I believe that knowledge is a hard-found thing.  We learn from our mistakes, but the idea of learning from others mistakes without having to repeat them appeals to me.  I explained this to my friends, and Norm replied that “there are no mistakes, only choices.  Each choice is made to help us understand what we need to learn.  Free choice is restricted more by small ideas than it is by anything else.  Our choices are limited, theirs are not.”

Robert Temple stated that, “The universe is finite but unbounded.  There are between ten and a hundred million intelligent civilizations in our galaxy alone, in all likelihood.  And there is always one more to contact than the one we have already contacted.”  We must also remember that, “no matter how grand and glorious they may be, they are still mortal beings in a universe which to them is still mysterious.  They cannot and never will know all the answers.”[281]

Dating

Christians count their years post Christum natum (from the birth of Christ).  BC represents time before Christ, and AD represents time after his death.  The year count goes back to Dionysius the Areopagite, and may be seven years out.

The Romans counted their years ab urbe condita (from the foundation of Rome).

The Gregorian Zero Day is 15 Oct 3373 BC.

The Mohammedans count their years from the hegira, Mohammed’s flight from Mecca to Medina (zero day).

The Toltecs calendar marked four ages, the Water Sun, the Earth Sun, the Wind Sun, and the present age of the Fire Sun.

The Mayan calendar marks the Earth change from the Quaternary to the Quinternary Age (and a new climate).  Plants suddenly became noticeably dependant on the solar periodicity.  The Mayan Prime Number was 13, and their measurement of time was 13 long counts of 144,000 days = one baktun.  Their most recent zero day was 1754.  They measured 20 baktuns back to 613 BC and a further 20 baktuns back from there to bring the count to the first zero day 05 Jun 8498 BC.  3 Feb 383 AD was marked 9.10.10.0.0.

The Mayan year 49,760 corresponds to 1999.

Sidereal year: 365.25636 days.

True tropical solar year: 365.242198 days.

Carbon dating (C14), uses organic objects (containing organic material) which can be dated back about 30,000 years.  Living organisms take up very minute quantities of a radioactive isotope of carbon in their metabolic cycle.  This ceases when the organism dies.  Decay radiation is emitted at a defined rate, and the determined dates can often be cross-checked by tree-ring dating.  The carbon date for Silbury Hill, Avebury, is approximately 2122 BC, plus or minus 95 years.  The Remains of the walls of the earliest city of Jericho in Israel are over 8800 years old, i.e.: approximately 6807 BC.  The Greek stade = 600’ or about 180 m.

Geneticists have conducted tests that lead to the theory that the common ancestor of mankind (Eve) is at least 200,000 years old.  It is thought that the divergence of races dates to this time vice 10.5 m years ago.  Stone tools have been found dating to 500,000 years ago, in the Calico Hills in California, and other tools dated to 250,000 years ago have been found in Hueyatlaco Mexico.  Climatic changes may have led to the extinction of most of the remaining large animals some 50,000 years ago.

Neanderthal man in Europe was replaced by Cro-Magnon man between 35,000 and 25,000 years ago.  Another similar race arrived about 16,000 years ago, and a third race (Azilian-unknown) invaded about 10,000 years ago.  Five root races may have come into existence at the same time: the American and Atlantean (Red), Upper African (Black), Egyptian, Indian, Persian, and Arabian (White-Yellow), and the remaining areas (Brown-Gold).  White people are thought to have originated in the Caucasus, hence the term Caucasian.

The earth may have passed through the tail of a comet.  This could possibly be responsible for repeated changes in the earth’s orbit, in the inclination of its axis, and in the lengths of the day, the seasons, and the year.  The earth on one occasion is supposed to have completely turned over, so that the sun rose in the West and set in the East.  The length of the year before this was possibly 360 days between the 15th and 8th centuries BC.  It suddenly increased to 355 and a quarter days in 687 BC.  The orbit of the moon and the length of the month were also changed (according to Professor Immanuel Velikovsky).  Both the Assyrian-Babylonian calendar year and the Mayan calendar year changed, starting on 26 February.  Joshua mentioned the sun standing still.  The historian Herodotus stated that the priests of Memphis, Egypt counted 341 generations going back 11,000 years, and that during the recording of their ancient records of the Egyptian Kings, the sun had risen several times where it customarily set, and had set where it should have risen.  During the XVIII Egyptian Dynasty, the constellation of Orion traveled in an opposite direction to its normal path.  A catastrophe is said to have occurred 27 and 34 centuries before Herodotus time.

When poles of figure (magnetic), move away from poles of spin (axial), the earth wobbles on its axis until it realigns its axis and spins again.  Earth has rotated on its present axis about 7000 years.  Although the last ice-age ended about 11,500 years ago, its cause is still a mystery.

Silvia Browne’s guides report that, “nothing is so mysterious that you cannot ask for and receive an answer.”[282]

Lifespan

Therefore, on with the questions.  “How long is a visitor’s normal lifespan?”

Tashni states that “in your life years, nearly 1000 years.”  Norm mentioned “800 to 1000 years and later added, “there are lots of different answers to this.  Our human lifespan is on the short end of the scale.  The long end approaches 20,000 years, but those are very advanced people, and not fully human.  They are fully conscious in and out of the body.  There is no loss of memory coming or going, in death or in birth.  The choices that we think about are not part of their reality.”

History

“How much of a hand have visitors had in our scientific advances and discoveries?”

Tashni indicated that “we are a part of all that you do.”  This might explain a number of curious historical twists that jump from apparent fiction to reality.  In 1726, for example, the author Jonathan Swift wrote a book of fiction entitled “Gulliver’s Travels.”  In this book, he describes the two moons (Phobos and Deimos) that revolve about Mars.  He specifically stated that “the astronomers of Laputa have likewise discovered two lesser stars or satellites, which revolve about Mars, whereof the innermost is distant from the Center of the Primary Planet exactly three of his Diameters, and the outermost five; the former revolves in the space of ten Hours, and the latter in twenty-one and an Half; so that the Squares of their periodical times are very near in the same Proportion with the Cubes of their Distance from the Center of Mars; which evidently shows them to be governed by the same Law of Gravitation, that influences the other heavenly bodies.”[283]

As Kurland points out, “Swift is only slightly off in his figures.  Phobos, the inner Moon, actually revolves around Mars in eight hours; and Deimos, the outer Moon, takes 30 hours.  The moons of Mars were first discovered by astronomer Asaph Hall in 1877, 151 years later.”[284]  How then could Swift have known?  (I would revert to the “Duck Theory” at this point).

As for life on Mars, Joseph McMoneagle reports that, “at one time, a million years earlier, there were other humanoids that visited Mars and died there.” [285]

“How do you record information, what is your system of writing, and can it be translated in our languages?   Do you have great libraries and information banks, and are they tied into the other worlds you know of?”

Norm replied that “it is all telepathic.  You can find whatever you want even if you don’t know the language that is being spoken.  At least you can understand the intent.  Tashni states that “all information is kept in the Higher Councils’ memories.”  Norm also noted that “machines are made available to those who have the need for them.  If you don’t need it you can’t have it.  This is a fundamental law of all sustainable cultures.”  Tashni states that the information is “stored in memory, and not relevant to you.”  Tashni also pointed out that “memories are akashic.”

“How far back does your history go?”

Tashni’s “short” reply was “far.”

“Do you keep good records, and if so, how and in what way are they stored and

studied?

Tashni responded with a question of her own, “do you?”

“Can we have access to your records and language?  Do our languages have a common root and can we learn from the visitor’s language?

Norm replied, “yes, but our languages are rooted in different systems so if you are talking in a language with a Pleiadian root to someone in the Orion system then that root is a few million years back.  Telepathy on the other hand is universal.”   Tashni again asked, “why would you want to know?”

A few Astronomical Facts and Figures

The planets or satellites of our Sun include Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and the asteroid Pluto.  Of these, only four-Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn, are sufficiently bright for navigation.  The number of small satellites and asteroids revolving about the Sun is known to be about 1,500.  Of the 4,850 stars visible to the naked eye, only the brightest concern the navigator, and they amount to about 60.  Sirius, Canopus, Rigil Kentaurus, Vega, Capella, Arcturus, Rigel, Procyon, Achernar, Hadar, Altair and Betelgeuse are the brightest stars to look for.  Venus is the brightest planet, followed by Jupiter.  Mars has a reddish hue, and Saturn is difficult to see.[286]

Our galaxy is 5 X 10 (to the 17) kilometres in radius, and contains some 10 (to the 11) stars.  The intrinsic brightness of a star is measured by its colour.  The universe is expanding (based on Redshift luminosity), and is approximately 20 (to the 9) million years old.  If looked at in reverse of the expansion, all the matter was once at a single point-therefore the theory of the “Big Bang.”

Life on Earth is sustained by heat and light from the Sun, our nearest star.  Proxima Centauri is the next nearest star to Earth.  The 14 brightest stars are: Sirius, Canopus, Rigil Kent, Arcturus, Vega, Capella, Rigel, Procyon, Achernar, Hadar, Altair, Betelgeuse, Aldebaran, and Aerux.  The ten nearest stars are: Proxima Centauri, Alpha Centauri A & B, Bernard’s Star, Wolf 359, HD 95735, Sirius A & B, UV Ceti A & B, Ross 154, Ross 248, and Eridani.

An astronomical unit is equal to the average distance from Earth to the Sun.  The distance from Earth to the Sun 149,000,000 km or 1.5 X 10 (to the 8) kilometres (149,597,893 km) equals one astronomical unit. Parsec equals the distance of stars.  Magnitude is the brightness of a star. PSR is the abbreviation for a Pulsar, QSO is the abbreviation for a Quasar, asteroids can be minor planets, (Eros, for example).

The limits of the Solar System equal the furthest travel of its comets.  Jupiter is as big as it can be.  If it were any bigger it would probably turn into another Sun.  This is because gravitational stresses at its core would raise its temperature, causing a nuclear reaction.  Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars are similar to each other, but their temperatures are very different.  The Asteroid Belt includes Ceres, Pallas, Vesta, Hidalgo and more than 50,000 large enough to be photographed by telescope.  (Legends refer to it as the remains of the planet Photon).

The asteroid belt may be the remains of the planet “Phaeton” or Taimat, which is said to have orbited the Sun just beyond Mars (between Mars and Jupiter).  Based on an estimate of the 4,500 largest fragments, Phaeton was probably larger than Mars, and possessed both a hydrosphere and a biosphere, with a likely “Belt of Life”.  It was apparently destroyed by a surface explosion, not a collision or internal explosion, as the debris stayed in its original orbit.  The destruction of Phaeton possibly occurred about 500,000 years ago, before Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon man.

More mysteries to ponder.  Cygnus X-1 in the constellation of Cygnus was called the Demon Bird of Nergal.  It is possible that it is a Black Hole.

On the subject of Black Holes, John Gibbon stated that, “It does seem possible, after all, that the origins of the Universe can be traced back through successively shorter cycles to some tiny seed, a baby universe produced by a quantum fluctuation out of nothing at all…the entire Universe is a black hole, which we inhabit; and…the behavior of the black holes within that Universe, merging and interacting in the late phases of a preceding “big crunch,” could explain how the Universe as we know it came into being.  Black holes really do provide the key to understanding both the ultimate fate of the Universe and the origins of space and time.”[287]

A Solar year is equal to 365.2422 days.  The Mayan year is equal to 365.2420 days.   Titan, a planetary moon of Saturn has a physical condition similar to Earth’s. Icarus is an asteroid that orbits closest to the sun.

Spheroid trigonometry is used to determine longitude.  Stellar parallax-cyclic changes can be observed in the positions of the stars due to the motion of the Earth around the Sun.  The earth’s natural electromagnetic resonance is 6.6 cycles per second, followed by 7.8 cycles per second.

Archimedes (Base).  Archimedes is a walled crater-plain on the western border of the Mare Imbrium, the Moon’s Sea of Shadows.  It has a diameter of about 50 miles and, unlike the nearby Aristillus crater, it has a relatively smooth ground surface.  (It has been suggested as a possible site for a space transit camp).  Another site, known as Cassini was possibly the first to be designated, but may be too small.

Bodes Law (1772):  If one adds  4 to the sequence 0,3,6,12 etc., the resulting sums are equal to the spacing of planets with Mercury at 4, Venus at 7, Earth at 10, Mars at 16, Asteroids (possibly the remains of the planet Phaeton) at 28, Jupiter at 52, Saturn at 100, Uranus at 196 followed by Neptune at 388 and Pluto at 770.

Saturn and Jupiter are flattened at the poles, (so is Earth).  Saturn’s density is less than water.  Earth is roughly 4,600 million years old, with the oldest solidified rocks dated to 3,900 million years old (Radiation decay is a steady indication of age).  Venus rotates in the opposite direction from other planets.  Every 26,827.5 years the Earth makes a rotation around the Pleiades.

Key Stars and Constellations to observe when looking for visitors, include, The Milky Way, Magellanic Clouds, Andromeda and Triangulum Constellations, Cepheid, variables-star class, RR Lyrae stars, NGC 2403 Spiral Galaxy, Solar Wind, Radio Galaxies, Interstellar Molecules, Cassiopeia, Ursa Major (Big Dipper), Ursa Minor, Cygnus, Auriga, Orion, and the Stars: Arcturus, Sirius, Canopus, Betelgeuse and Vega.

“Between the immovable wall and an unstoppable force lies the neutrino, the one left standing when everything else has blown or withered away.”  Gisela of Lahr.

Cataclysmic Events

“Are you here to observe events that may be cataclysmic for our world and if so, what are they?”

Both Mac and Tashni said “yes” to this question.

From material I have been reading by other “seers,” (Ruth Montgomery for one), it has been suggested that the Earth will “roll over,” or turn off its axis sometime in the near future, just as it appears to have done on several occasions in the past.  This would explain the sudden changes in climate over various parts of the Earth at different times in its not so distant past.  Her guides told her that, “although their chief reason for coming to Earth is to observe the upcoming shift of the Earth on its axis, nonetheless the aliens would like to help the humans survive it, by following the means that they themselves are using – to project themselves in thought forms to other planets and to safer areas on Earth’s surface.  Although the visiting aliens are not entirely altruistic, and some are purely of scientific bent, desiring to experiment with and examine Earth’s inhabitants, nevertheless they do not actually intend harm.”[288]

I therefore asked each of my friends, “can you confirm that this “rollover” is coming, and explain why it will happen?”

Mac told me directly that the event would take place “in your lifetime.”  Tashni initially told me that, “yes, soon the wobble (the Earth wobbles or nutates as it rotates) will get larger.”  She added, however, that, “due to the work of many, it is no longer an issue.”  Norm commented that “there is a lot of debate about the possibility that the Earth is going to roll over.  Scientists are about as consistent up there as they are down here.  There are a lot of different possibilities that could take place, depending on what set of data you are looking at.  There is a lot of crisis mentality here.  There are a number of times when we have been close to disaster.  Getting people ready by predicting a pole shift can’t do any harm.  On the other hand, it’s just as likely that we will destroy ourselves with nuclear weapons before the next pole shift, so why worry?  Most of the time the visitors are here monitoring tensions between nuclear powers, not pole shifts.”

Ruth Montgomery’s guides commented on the continuing alien activity in this area.  “It is increasing constantly throughout the globe.  The aliens are studying conditions and experimenting with animals and people in order to preserve Earth’s species on other planets and in other galaxies, because of the impending shift.  They literally mean no harm.  They are trying to preserve the human race and species of animals, vegetation, and other forms of life that would be extremely valuable to reintroduce into a stabilized Earth, or to other planets that can sustain those life forms.  That’s what they are testing for now, and Earthlings should not be alarmed by their visits.  They seldom interfere with humans who are unwilling to take the risk.  They are extremely selective and want only to help.  Those aliens who come and go from Earth are from highly developed technological systems, and although some of these aliens might not be to the liking of you and others, they are scientists of the highest order.”[289]

Along the same lines, Carl Sagan noted that “It was (the American engineer) Robert Goddard’s intuition that “the navigation of interplanetary space might be effected to ensure the continuance of the race.”  He added that that (Russian theoretician) “Konstantin Tsiolkovsky made a similar judgment: There are countless planets, like many island Earth’s…Man occupies one of them.  But why could he not avail himself of others, and of the might of numberless suns?…When the Sun has exhausted its energy, it would be logical to leave it and look for another, newly kindled star, still in its prime.”[290]

Later, in a special session with Donna, I asked the guides a similar question about the shift or turning of the Earth on its axis.  Those that came through here stated that the potential “rollover has been dealt with (handled), and that this is no longer a concern.”

“Does the build-up of the ice cap on the South Pole have anything to do with the possible shift?”

Mac states “partially.  The Earth is not balanced, it is always wobbling.”  Tashni stated “yes, the energy of the Earth is out of balance, due to disrespect and misuse.  She cleans and changes herself.  When her energy is off, the wobble occurs, and becomes distended, causing her to roll over.  Norm stated that “planets are much more stable than meteorites or asteroids, so we may as well stay here.”

Carl Sagan believed that “Since in the long run, every planetary society will be endangered by impacts from space, every surviving civilization is obliged to become spacefaring – not because of exploratory or romantic zeal, but for the most practical reason imaginable: staying alive.  And once you’re out there in space for centuries and millennia, moving little worlds around and engineering planets, your species has been pried loose from its cradle.  If they exist, many other civilizations will eventually venture far from home.[291]

Ruth Montgomery asked her guides what it is that will cause the impending shift of the Earth on its axis.  They informed her that, “It will occur when the ice builds up to the highest degree at the poles, and the imbalance leads to a slip of the Earth on its side…The teetering will begin shortly before the event, and instruments will be able to record the wobble, but when it occurs it will be so rapid that an eye will scarcely have time to blink.”[292]

Collisions

I went on with the questions.  “Have there been major collisions between Earth and with other bodies such as asteroids and comets in the last 10,000 years?  If so, can you tell us where and when these happened and what effects on Earth the collisions had?”

Tashni confirmed this, stating says “yes, in Russia, Australia, China, and North America.  It was like a dark Sun, like your nuclear tests.”

“Will the collision of asteroids with Jupiter in recent years have any effect on our world?

Tashni stated firmly, “yes.”

“What then, will this effect be?  For that matter, how did collisions with Earth affect it, particularly within the last 10,000 years? “

Tashni, back to her one word replies stated “cataclysms.”

Gregg Braden noted that “21 cometary fragments (collided with) the planetary gas giant Jupiter…Earth continues to respond to the impact through magnetic and seismic anomalies, as well as a shift of atmosphere water vapor on Earth.”[293]

“Are we due for more collisions in the very near future, and if so, when, where and how will they affect us?  One of my sources informed me that dust clouds and asteroids can be expected to hit Earth starting at the turn of the century, leading up to four large pieces hitting us within the next few years.  Can you confirm this?”

Tashni indicated that these potential crises “have been handled.”  Norm said the same thing, by confirming that there would be concerns, “but nothing serious.”

“Was the planet Venus originally much closer to Earth, and did it spin off from Jupiter, settling into its present orbit some 4000 years ago?  Had the orbit of Venus approached closely to Earth within historic times, causing catastrophic effects on life on Earth?

Tashni had to ask me again, “why would you want to know that?”

Eli Maor has determined that, “The years 2003-2004 will be exceptionally rich in astronomical events: four total eclipses in a row (two each year), a transit of Mercury on 07 May 2003, and the arrival of NASA’s Cassini spacecraft at Saturn, starting the first clasp exploration of the ringed planet and its large moon Titan.  On 27 August 2003, the planet Mars will come to within 34.6 million miles of Earth, its closest approach in two thousand years.  On 28 March 2004, three of Jupiter’s four large moons will be seen casting their shadows on the giant planet.  And on 10 September 2004, Mercury will come within a mere three arc minutes of the bright star Regulus in the constellation Leo, causing the two celestial objects to appear as a double star.  But topping them all will be the transit of Venus (across the sun’s face for the first time since 1882), on 08 June 2004.”[294]

“Did the Earth’s near collision with another planet cause its rotation to stop briefly, or its axis to tilt causing floods and disasters?”  There may be an indication that this happened as recorded in the Book of Joshua, “And it came to pass…that the LORD cast down great stones from heaven upon them…And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed…So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.  And there was no day like that before it or after it…”[295]

Norm states that “this is an interesting speculation, but I’m not finding any sympathy with it.”  The response seems to be more like “huh?”

Communication

“Do you have any questions for us?”

Tashni stated, “no, your questions are based in fear and not in trust.  You cannot change this.”

“What can we do to make the lines of communication more open?”

Tashni pointed out that this is, “not necessary, they are open.”

“When will we be able to meet openly?”

Tashni stated that “we do now.”

“Did your history progress with the same kinds of wars, migrations, evolutions of science and technology as ours?”

Tashni states flatly, “unfortunately yes.”

Timothy Good believes “that man’s progress on planet earth has been monitored by beings whose technological and mental resources make ours look primitive and theirs “supernatural” by comparison.  The fact that many of the visitors are similar to us physiologically indicates that we share a genetic link.  Could it be that some of them had a hand in our evolution?[296]

“We now know that the purpose of evolution is to produce consciousness of higher and higher order.  The universe is a teaching and learning machine.  Its purpose is to know itself.  Knowledge is freely available in the universe like every other natural resource.  It is there for everyone who is willing to make the effort to take it.  We can poke around in our sequential “objective” time-space, or we can take the intuitive, subjective “time-space” route.  Both are needed to get us there.”[297]

“Have you found evidence of civilizations and populations on other planets that no longer exist, or that now exist but are being observed by you as you are observing us?

Tashni also stated “yes” to this question.  Very difficult to get her to elaborate at times.  I needed to know the “who, what, where, how, when, and why?”

“How do you deal with other visitors and their political, medical, ethical and intellectual concerns?”

Tashni states that there are “struggles of one group to attain power over another.”  Norm states that they carry out “constant research, conferences, abductions, interactions, our people taking births here and going for debriefings after they die.  Whatever can be done is being done.”

“Can we get along, and if so how and when can this begin, if it hasn’t already begun?”

Tashni states that this “remains to be seen.  You have great fear.”  We have discussed this subject in some detail.  It is my belief that they need to be controlled when necessary in order that they not be permitted to take advantage – we have rights, but that is not a concept that the visitors have been readily willing to accept.  My sense is that in order to respect them; it must be acknowledged that they must also respect us.

To this, Tashni replied that she “continues to struggle with the many layers that “ she finds herself in, and “struggles to determine the truth of it all.”  But like many, she has been here for a long time, and like many, (she needs to spend time) with other beings in a need to survive and ultimately remember just who” she is…where is she from? And where is she going?  “Where will this all lead?  Is this the fear” she feels, “or is it more.  To her it feels “a lot like someone in a mystery movie who is hanging out in front of a door.  You get a sense that something is on the other side and it is not good.  It brings fear.  Am I to open the door, or acknowledge the fear, and keep it closed.  Do I already know what is on the other side?  Probably.”  She adds that she is “a willing participant here,” and that she pursues this information “because it is as important” for her to reach her truth as it is for me to find mine.  I had told her that “Lawrence of Arabia” is supposed to have said “nothing is written.”  She couldn’t resist adding the last line, by saying, of course, “It is written.”

The abduction experiencers interviewed by John Mack “report that the aliens themselves…say that we are not ready to acknowledge their existence, and would treat them aggressively as an enemy as we do anyone or anything different from ourselves that we do not understand.  Some abductees report that the aliens do not wish to bring about change through coercion but rather through a change of consciousness that would lead to our choosing a different course.”[298]

“Are some of the other visitors more advanced than you?”

Tashni replied that “we all have our abilities.”

I suggested that this was not a straight answer to a direct question and she replied “yes it is.  We are all born with these innate abilities.  Some are more acutely honed than others.”

How Far?

“How far have you been, (in all directions) and what do you believe is beyond the farthest point?”

According to Norm, “this planet has been a project for a long time.  We really  don’t understand why what happens here happens.  People here are all genetic stock from other places.  But they get here and everything goes haywire.  Further out from here it breaks down altogether.  This is a sort of psychic frontier, somewhere on the edge of civilization.  The battle is a psychic battle, and it is taken very seriously, because it is at the outer edge of the collective consciousness of our race, and it would seem that there is a residual consciousness here that is in touch with some other race.  The level of vibration here is not quite the same kind of vibration as the seed stock.  The physical battle was fought millennia ago, but everything that was here before is still here, and in a lot of ways, we don’t know very much about what kind of energy is here or where its’ center of power is.  Another dimension perhaps, no one knows.  We do know that a lot of beings died near here fighting beings that were not at all like us.  These beings do not have DNA, nor do they have discernible human characteristics.  We suspect that part of what is going on is the psychic aftershock of those events.  They cannot exist in our universe and we cannot exist in theirs, but we seem to be able to both exist here.  Our species has the advantage here.  But the next town along the frontier is theirs we suspect.  But in fact we don’t really know.  All we know is that there is some kind of aberration here that has wonderful and frightening effects, and we are attempting to exploit it to the max.  We the inhabitants of Earth are the volunteers who have agreed to come and be born into this psychic frontier to experience life away from the warm fuzzy stable center of the universe.

Tashni for her part told me bluntly that, “you could not understand.”  (I took this to mean the respondent didn’t know the answer, and suggested that they “try me.”  I also showed her some of these answers).

Defence

“Do you have a defence system and an armed forces?”

Tashni stated, “not as you understand.”

Phillip Krapf recorded a comment from a visitor identified as “Gus” who pointed out that “Absolute intelligence is the ultimate weapon against which there is no adequate defence, even by the most aggressive and advanced military power.”[299]

I specifically asked Norm the following.  “In battle or other situations you mention that the pilot still has a lot of control over what goes down.  Is this inter-ship battle or visitor-Earth battle?  Who is fighting whom, why, and what are the results/aftermath here on Earth?  Can they survive a crash here?

Norm replied that “there are many races in space who just don’t understand the rules.  Non-intervention, non-interference, means just that.  People who are born on outposts like this with knowledge of their home worlds cannot be harassed for information.  No unauthorized contact with undeveloped races is allowed.  Those who can’t conform are blasted back to the Stone Age.  To enter space without morals is not a good thing.  They have let the governments of this world know this.”

Norm confirmed for me that “the rule of non-interference is related to the strength of the time lines.  The strength of a timeline depends on the faith of a people in the rightness of their decisions.  The brutality of the American past with regards to natives and later with regards to South America and Vietnam has drained the moral edge it needs to survive.  It spends much of its’ time flailing at the demons of the past.  It’s a time line that must fail.  To build a strong time line, the best solutions must be found for each problem.  The strength of the opposition to an idea is a weakening force that is stronger than the thrust of an immoral force, which may win a quick victory, but it can never defeat the ghosts.  As time goes on the strength of the ghost forces increases.  Time travel gives one the ability to start to win the forgiveness of the ghosts, or at least to reduce their number.  Going back in time to do something that didn’t strengthen life would be foolish.  People go back in time because of the strength of ghosts in their present.  To further strengthen those ghosts wouldn’t make any sense.”

“How do your defence systems and military personnel work, and who and what have they had to defend themselves from, and why?”

Tashni suggested that, “this is unimportant.”

Ken Eagle Feather indicated that he sensed “military units.  They are not foreboding, but can be used.  Thus it would be foolish and reckless to think we could pit ourselves against their technology.”[300]

Shirly Andrews indicated that, “If our radar locks onto a UFO for ninety seconds, it interferes with computer control and operation of the vehicle.  Occasionally the ships are forced to the earth’s surface.  In 1948 a craft 36’ in diameter and 380’ long crashed near Phoenix, Arizona.  Investigators claim government officials recovered two alien bodies from this wreckage of a vehicle from outer space.”[301]

“Are the things you must protect yourselves from something we must be prepared for as well?”

Tashni stated, “in time, perhaps.”  Carl Sagan stated that, “If there were other life in this solar system, it would be in imminent danger because the humans are coming.”[302]

“What are the conflicts that are being brought here, and are the “Intergalactic Command” forces the Peacekeepers of the universe?”

Norm replied by saying, “yes, they are the only forces allowed to power up their weapons in space.  Automatic weapons destroy non-conformists.  (There are unmanned reconnaissance units stationed around Mars and at various places throughout known space.  The nearest artillery is well outside our solar system, but that doesn’t mean it wouldn’t do a number on anything that tried to do something real nasty around here).  Intergalactic Command is the equivalent of the blue berets.  Representatives of each space faring nation are sent to their councils.  The military wing is usually commanded by Sirians and personnel are assigned to the command for their remaining functional lives once selected.

Norm tells me that “Sirians are the pomp and ceremony kings of the universe,” (Norm doesn’t like them very much), “Zetas are kind of like the guys who sit at home in the basement playing with the computer instead of football in the park.”  He adds that, “once you are with the command, your allegiance is to the command, (and) you are no longer in contact with your home people.  Theoretically, you could be asked to attack your home planet in severe circumstances, but I don’t believe that has ever happened.  The military superiority of the forces under command are such that there has been almost no violence anywhere in the known universe since it was established.  A squadron of six 3-man craft could ‘blast this planet back to the stone-age in under 30 minutes.’  People don’t mess with these guys.  Nothing serious is going on right now.  The one thing they don’t understand is why we fight so much.  We have as many conflicts going on here as there are known anywhere.  It doesn’t matter how primitive the planet is; no one fights as much as us.  It’s one of the reasons that they watch us so closely.”

Norm does mention that, “There have been some major conflicts within the last 100,000 years.  In one, hundreds of billions were killed.  We learned our lesson.  Most of those people were killed in a civil war that was started in one of the more aggressive systems by a smaller but more advanced race they were attacking.  The Orions to this day don’t really understand what happened.  Some of them still think they won.  It was a grand deception put on by leaders who could not afford to lose face.  They lost billions of people, hundreds of planets were destroyed and the enemy surrendered on paper just so they could end the war without further unnecessary casualties.  This was an attack on a planet of 500 million souls that sustained no damage to the home world or casualties.  (Maybe 300 pilots killed in battle, mostly because they warped into an enemy formation and ran into something).  Politics and propaganda are wonderful things.  No one wins wars, just lots of people die.  After that, the Galactic Command was formed, so everyone won.”

There are of course a great number of watchers, both down here and up there.  Nick Pope has a message on the subject.  “Know that there are people who watch our skies to protect the sleeping masses.  Know that we keep a round-the-clock watch on our airspace, using sophisticated radar technology.  But also know that not all potential intruders into our airspace have two wings, a fuselage and a tail, and not all show up on our radar.”[303]

Norm also commented on the fact that “command changes you.  First you get briefed on all the low life (dirt) your own political leaders are up to.  Then you learn to empathize with whatever traditional enemies you may have around to the point where you start to believe their side of the story, then they put you on the time viewers and let you see what really happened.  After that command is about all that is left for you.  You’ve already found out how little you can trust everyone else and what the consequences will be if you do.  Order is maintained because men and women are able to put aside their home worlds to become advocates for all humanity.  The instant we stop doing that, self-serving politics and petty grievances will take over.  It’s a plan that has worked for almost 100,000 years.  The odd combat mission is against those who can’t live by the rules.”

Remaining Unknowns

“What can you tell us that I haven’t asked that would be of interest to us?”

Tashni stated, “nothing.”  Norm said that, “this world is crawling with unknown intelligences and entities.”

I asked him specifically, “What can you tell us about them?”

“Not all intelligences are human or material.  This world was inhabited by other beings in the past.  It is the same everywhere, but this planet has a sort of dimensional portal near it.  Some of the things we meet here are not human; they are not even from this dimension.  Beings come here in light ships that no one knows about.  We see them, but we don’t understand them.  They don’t seem to have bodies; they are like a coherent living light source.  We can only speculate as to the nature of their being and their intelligence.  We only know that we don’t know where they come from and we have no way of tracking them or following them when they leave.  They leave no radiation or ion trail; they have no physical footprint, not even a breeze as they pass by.  These are perhaps beings who lived here long ago, perhaps beings from our future, so advanced they are no longer able to reach back to us.  They may perhaps even have alien technologies so far advanced that they would not even be recognizable to us as such, or perhaps not so advanced but so different from us as to be incomprehensible.  We know what they look like to us, but what do we look like to them?  Can we ever know that?  There is no known top of the ladder.  There are just bigger and more puzzling questions.  Not everything can be completely understood on this plane.  There will always be some bleed-through from the unknowable.  But through growth and evolution, change and time travel, we will become something else, and that something else at some point will be unknowable from our perspective here today.  That is our challenge.  The unknowable is our challenge to grow, we strive to become whatever we see, and to encompass all that is, that is the way life is.  We are led by the ancestors (they are our guides), aliens, they are our friends, and we are all prodded by the unknown”

“We run our own time line.  It gains strength or dies out based on the nature of our deeds and thoughts.  The (visitors) act only as interpreters of the time line.  If they see the end coming, they will act to make sure those creatures who share time and space with us but do not share our apparent need to self-destruct, are allowed to continue to evolve in a manner appropriate to their consciousness.”

Dimensions

“What about the possibilities of layers of dimensions above or beyond the 6th (i.e. 7th, 8th etc.)?

Norm stated that “the first through the fifth dimension forms a group with the 6th as a bridge.  You cannot know the nature of what is beyond the 6th because you have no reference points.  You will learn in the seventh as a virus or amoebae or a slug would in this dimension.  You will go through many lifetimes before you have any idea of what kind of place you are in.  At the same time, you will be a being of incredible grace and power compared to your current existence, but then again you will be more entities than what you now think of as you.”

Fred Heeren has stated that “Natures laws are anything but arbitrary.  This century’s observations have uncovered patterns in nature which are so precisely fixed, within the parameters so narrow, that the many structural accomplishments of these patterns in our universe cannot be explained by even the wildest coincidence.  These accomplishments require a conscious, super-intelligent mind – with a particular concern for human beings.”[304]

As a general point, one of the more common conceptions that are often reiterated on the Internet and in the general media is that most sightings of visitors take place on the new Moon or within two days before the new Moon.  They are also reported as taking place on the full Moon or within two days before the full Moon; and, at the perihelion (the point in its orbit when the Moon is closest to the Earth) or within two days before the perihelion.

Turn About

“What questions can we answer for you?”

Tashni tells me, “none.”  Norm suggests that we, “ask who you are.  Ask why you are so interested in these things, find out what you know.  Take the information and see what it triggers.  Write it down.  Don’t doubt what you know.  Don’t question it.  Just remember, and you’ll know when it is time for it to come out.”

“Is everything that once was still here, and if so, can it be viewed by some or all of the visitors, and if not, what is it that allows them to be aware of this coexistence?  Do they have great psychic ability, mental concentration, subliminal awareness, or direct contact?

Norm replied, “all of those things.”

“Silvia Browne’s guides added that, “The soul eyes recognize each other.  It does not matter what visage is worn.  An almost strobe-like effect is reflected on the physical retina of the eye which recognizes the psychic qualities of another person.  This is what causes so many of you to be approached with questions, because your aura shows it and your physical eyes reflect it.”[305]

“Can we wish you well, good luck, and Godspeed, in the hope that there will be many good things to come from the visits, and that all will benefit from the exchange? “

Tashni tells me, “yes.”

“Do you live above ground or under it, or in aerial vehicles?   Do you live in towns and cities?  Do you have country areas, with grass and animals, forests, lakes and rivers?”

Norm stated that “alien architecture on their homeworlds can be amazing.  They have redundant anti-gravity systems that can mean there is no need to restrict form and architecture to the limitations of a gravitational field.  Zetas live underground and have for centuries.”

What do you use for star maps?

Tashni told me that the visitors use, “energy systems.”  Norm adds that the ancients on Earth mapped out the sky using information gained from UFOs.  The Earth was mapped into areas and tribes.  Each tribe had an alien contact.  There was a lot of freedom as to what could be done.  Some people may have laid down survey grids using UFOs.”

Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas suggest that ancient alien contact is a possibility.  “The idea that extraterrestrial visitors have been here before (is not) a complete impossibility.  However, even if there has been extraterrestrial contact in the past, there are no grounds to attribute all human success to an unknown alien contact.”[306]

“Do other worlds blow themselves up as seems to be the case, or are shooting stars a natural phenomenon?”

Tashni tells me that, “disasters occur.  To have creation, one needs energy.  Endings produce energy.”

“What do you know of our world that would be useful to us to make it a better place to live?

Tashni told me to, “respect it.”

“Why have you come?”

Tashni reiterated a previous response by stating that they are here, “to observe.”

“What happens when you leave?”

We are not leaving,” was her terse reply.

I had to ask, “Why not?”

She said, “This is our place, our creation.”

“Let’s try that question again,” I thought.  “What can you do, what have you done, and what will you be doing while you are here?”

Back to her maddeningly brief one-word answers, Tashni replied with, “Observe.”

“Are other places, planes, planets and dimensions habitable for us, and can we also visit them one day?”

Tashni came back with “Yes, perhaps.”

“How many of us have already done this and what happened to them?”

“Some have stayed, others have returned,” was her response.

“Do you love one another?”

I could almost hear her laugh when she indicated that this is “a human emotion only.”

“Do you observe our television and film programs, and what do you find interesting about them?”

They are, “illusional, full of fear messages,” she replied.

“What gives you pleasure and what do you do for laughter and entertainment?”

She said that these are “human conditions.”

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“Do any of our film and television shows about supposed life in space reflect the way things are with any of the visitors and their worlds (i.e. strike a cord?).  If so which ones (e.g. X-Files, Star Trek, Alien Nation, V, Earth the Final Conflict, Battle Star Galactica, Star Gate etc.), or are they all far off the mark?”

Tashni commented that, “creativity within the human mind was given.”  Norm, however, was quite specific on this issue and stated plainly, “not in the slightest.  I think I still like movie “Communion” best, not because it is accurate physically, but because he creates the right mood.  It is emotionally accurate.”  There are elements one can find on the Internet that suggest that the Reptoids were well portrayed in the TV series “V.”

“Are the concepts of tele-transporters, replicators and medical restoration facilities workable, and do you use them?”

On this subject, Tashni stated, “yes, but they are not necessary.”

“Have you been aiding our technological development all along, and if so, in what way?”

Tashni replied that they were, “assisting and encouraging.”  Sources from the Internet indicate that there are a number of  “Black Projects” being carried out by various governments that deal with technologies that range from laser and particle beams to top secret aircraft.  They offer the example of something called the “Aurora Project,” claiming that it deals with a high-speed “Pulsar” aircraft characterized by a very loud, deep, rumbling engine noise (with 1-2 Hz pulse rate), much like the old heavy lift rockets.  It flies at altitudes above 50,000’ at a speed of 3,500 mph.  Pulsed Detonation Engines (PDEs), which are also referred to as Pulsed Detonation Wave Engines (PDWE), are being tested and will eventually propel aircraft in the Mach 0.2-3.0 range.  PDEs use shock waves created in a detonation to compress the fuel-oxidizer mixture prior to combustion.  A cylinder chamber designed to support the detonation is constructed with a flat forward end, which makes up the thrust wall.  Air along with fuel is fed into the engine from behind the thrust-wall.  The detonation wave created travels forward to the thrust wall at about Mach 4 and compresses the fuel-air mixture, promotes supersonic combustion and causes a pressure rise in the engine.  The wave then strikes the thrust wall and rebounds accelerating the combustion products towards the nozzle.  Some of the products are ejected by the wave to the outside air-stream through the air inlet openings creating a toroidal vortex outside the engine.  Then the cycle repeats.  The advantages of this type of engine are that it theoretically generates higher fuel efficiency than a “constant pressure engine.”  Engines can produced in many sizes and thrust outputs from a few inches in diameter at a thrust of several pounds to a larger one that can output in the thousands of pounds range.  They have a high thrust to weight ration (i.e. lighter engine, more thrust).  They are mechanically simple, and have few moving parts; and, they could operate in or out of the atmosphere using fuel oxidizers.

Frank Scully reported a craft that he described as follows.  “The saucer was 100 feet across and the cabin itself was about 10’ in diameter.  Its center remained at rest, but it had an outer edge that revolved at a terrific speed.  It operated, in other words, like a magnetically controlled helicopter.  It was not propelled by jets or other power…inside the saucer were 16 men.  They were intact but charred black…(each) about the size of a midget.”[307]

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Artwork depicting a Triangular craft reported by a number of witnesses.

Another aircraft is reportedly triangle-shaped and very quiet.  One was described as “a large triangular, silent craft, which dipped below the cloud cover to reveal a brilliantly lit apex of the triangle.  The light on this part of the craft was about the size of a full Moon.”  Witnesses “heard a low vibrating rumbling directly above them that seemed to be turned on and off in rapid succession twice.  This vibration sound seemed stationary within the clouds above them.”[308]

A military witness also viewed a large black triangle hovering silently over the coastal area near Kingston, Ontario on two separate nights.  He described it as being larger that a football field, lights in each of the corners, and no sound whatsoever.  It seemed to be within a few thousand feet and in each case moved off very slowly south over Lake Ontario, before climbing very rapidly and disappearing.[309]

I went on to a follow up question.  “Are there remains of past expeditions from your home here on ours that can be examined and explained?”

Tashni tells me that, “they are all around you.”  Norm informed me that “no weapons or destructive technologies can be left here.  If one were, time travel would be used to retrieve it.”  One Internet source claims that that there is a hollowed out planetoid being moved here by the Reptoids or the Greys, and is in fact being used to transport an army of them.  The source claims that this planetoid is now parked outside the orbit of Pluto.

“How are your families and children raised and educated?  Do they have names, and do they celebrate birthdays, play games, go to school, have pets, get into trouble, and behave like us?”

Tashni states “not as yours,” these are “human conditions.  We have different creation techniques.”

  In the book “Letter to Earth,” it is reported that, “Beings from the Greater Universe have always been in contact with the Earth and her people.  We have been capable of reaching you from the dawn of your civilization.  We have in fact, joined you periodically in those times and places throughout history where popular history allowed for our existence.  Evidence of these visits is found in your many artifacts showing winged beings, or beings who travel in winged vehicles.”[310]

“Do you translate everything, or are all languages understood?”

Tashni states “thought, and intent are the same.”

“Do you have the same experiences or difficulties with other visitors when communicating?  “

“No,” Tashni insists.

“What are the most incredible things you have seen?”

Tashni’s hard reply was “your inhumanity to others.”

“Do you have commerce, buy, sell, exchange or trade products with other visitors, and if so with whom for what?”

Norm responded by telling me that, “trade is the same everywhere.  If you have what I want and I have something you need, we can trade.  But there is also a lot of benevolence.  Goods are delivered at no charge.  It depends on the circumstances.  We don’t encourage dependence, but we do encourage generosity.”  Tashni, on the other had stated that, “trade is not important.”

“Will you teach us?”

Tashni’s clear and singular reply was, “always.”

“Do you have to wear special environmental or protective clothing?”

Tashni tells me that that, “some wear illusional distortions.”

“Are your eyesight and hearing good, or do you need aids as we wear glasses for example?”

Tashni stated that there are “no aids.”  Whitley Strieber described the eyes of one of the female visitors that examined him.  “Her gaze seemed capable of entering me deeply, and it was when I had looked directly into her eyes that I felt my first taste of profound unease.  It was as if every vulnerable detail of my self were known to this being.  Nobody in this world could know another human soul so well, nor could one man look into the eyes of another so deeply, and to such an exact effect.  I could actually feel the presence of that other person within me – which was as disturbing as it was curiously sensual.  Their eyes are often described as “limitless,” “haunting,” and “baring the soul.”[311]

The sources have stated that almost everything that exists here exists somewhere else.  “Do dinosaurs still exist elsewhere and do they require a lighter gravity, in which they move, run and live?  Is it possible, as some of our scientists have suggested that the bones of the dinosaurs discovered here could never have supported their weight in our present gravity?  When did they really die off here on Earth (i.e. 10,000 years ago or 150 million years ago)?  Were dinosaurs intelligent enough for the visitors to communicate with (as has been suggested)?”

I have not yet received a response to these questions.

“Do you have a single key leader, a governing council, or governing body?”

Tashni replied, “yes, Councils.”

“How do you deal with crime, and do you have a legal process and a penal system?

Tashni stated, “there is supreme justice.”

“Do you have more males than females on your expeditions, or vice versa and how do you choose your crews?”

Tashni told me that, “they are chosen.  Male and female are your separations of self.”

“Do we have a chance to work and live together and what does the future hold for our families?”

Tashni states clearly that, “it will be different.”

Can you describe how your technology evolved?

Tashni responded with a question of her own, “what is time?”

“When did you first start making visits to other places?  How did the first visits of other off-world beings affect the visitors that you are aware of?”

Tashni tells me that it was back in, “eons of your time.”  Norm stated that “everything is known, but there is far too much for any one person to know.  (He had been a specialist in this quadrant).”  Various Internet sources have suggested that some of the visitors came here over 4,000 years ago.

“Did others visit you before you started your own exploration?”

Tashni thinks that this kind of question is, “unimportant.”  I took that to mean yes, and found it to be a curiously “defensive” response, for one relatively well grounded.

Pyramids, the Sphinx and other Earth Mysteries

“What can you tell us about things that are old and mysterious to us, such as the Sphinx, the Great Pyramid at Giza, what’s inside or underneath it and what it legends, stories and history are all about?”

Tashni is certain that they are all, “great structures.  They will reveal themselves to you.”  I had asked specifically about Canada earlier.  Norm indicated that “because of its’ position, the amount of bush and uninhabited natural space, Canada itself is a fantastic structure.  Most structures are underground, some are under the sea, some have been sealed for millennia, and space travelers leave some from systems that have fallen into extinction.  There are records here that predate the current form of humanity, left by those advanced enough to know we would be here.  Some are portals left to encourage people to visit other worlds.  It would be like exploring old mine shafts going into those places.  We will do it some day.  When we are more aware.”

“Writer Robert Bauval, Graham Hancock and their compatriots have suggested that the Sphinx faces in the direction from which the sun rose during the summer solstice approximately 10,500 years ago.”[312]

According to information channeled to Reg Miller, “The Great Pyramid was essentially a power converter.  It also added power to the already powerful Earth Vortex, transforming power into convenient radiant energy that could be used at a distance and at a frequency that did not damage living tissue.  But the Great Pyramid was also designed for many other purposes.  It was a healing center, a device for communication to distant locations on Earth as well as to ships at the edge of the solar system, a local power source, a long-distance power source, and a source of knowledge.”[313]

The Orions who channeled through Mac had quite a bit to say on the Egyptians and the pyramids. “The people whom you call Egyptians did not live in the area of Giza at the time of the pyramids.  The people of Egypt did not build the pyramids.  We built the pyramids; we left them on this planet [Earth].  The pyramids in Giza are not the only ones built on this planet, but they are the only ones we allowed to (continue) to exist.  We are the bearers of knowledge for the people who followed us, after we left this planet.  We have been coming and going on this planet for the last 35,000 years.  In time you will find out.  For people who have the ears to hear and the eyes to see will find the truth no matter how hidden it is.  The truth right now is not hidden.  It is out in the open, but nobody wishes to see it for what it is.”

The official Egyptian records date the construction of the pyramids to the period of the 4th Egyptian Dynasty, 2600-2480 BC.  Snefru, Khufu (Cheops), Retdjedef (Djedfre), Khafre (Chephren) and Menkaure (Mycerinus), were the “reputed” builders of the great pyramids (Mydum, Abou Roash and possibly Giza).  As far as official Egyptian history is concerned, the statue of the Great Sphinx standing in front of Khafre’s pyramid at Giza was possibly constructed at this time.  It is also stated that “statuary, both royal and private, reached a peak of perfection which was to constitute a benchmark for artists of later periods.”[314]

Again, these descriptions remind me of stories told by J.R.R. Tolkien.  “Dark is the water of Kheled-zarum, and cold are the springs of Kibilnala, and fair were the many-pillared halls of Khazad-dum in Eldar Days before the fall of mighty kings beneath the stone,” said Galadriel gravely.”[315]

There are many more pyramids than is generally known.  The largest, for example, is the “White Pyramid, located in the Qin Ling Shan mountains, about 100 kilometres southwest of the city of Xi’an, in the People’s Republic of China.  It is reported to be about 300 meters high.  According to David Hatcher-Childress (Lost Cities of China, Adventures Unlimited, 1991), China’s Great Pyramid is said to be at least 4,000 years old, and likely much older.  It is said that its sides were originally painted black on the North, blue-Grey (or faded green) on the East, red on the South, white on the West, and yellow on the top Center platform.”  Up to 90 pyramids have been discovered in China, with one a colossal 300 meters high and the rest ranging from 35 to 90 meters high.  The construction of the Chinese pyramids is similar to Teotihuacan, made of earth with stepped sides…with the tops flattened off.”[316]

In 1998, a pyramid was discovered submerged in the sea off the coast of the Japanese island of Yonaguni-Jima, one of the Ryukyu island chain located in the Pacific Ocean between Okinawa and Taiwan.  The rectangular ziggurat is 75 feet underwater… The structure is 600 feet wide and 90 feet high, and dates back to at least 8,000 BC.  Professor Robert Schoch said, “it basically looks like a series of huge steps, each about a meter high.  Essentially it’s a cliff face like the side of a stepped pyramid.”  Divers claim that there seems to be “a road circling the pyramid, and nearby there were a group of smaller step pyramids, each about 30 feet wide and six feet high.”  According to Professor Maseki Kimura of Ryukyu University in Okinawa, “This could be evidence of a new culture, as there are no records of a people intelligent enough to have built such a monument 10,000 years ago.”[317]

Professor Robert Schoch also studied the Great Sphinx of Giza, and found that strong evidence shows it “was already ancient when Khufu was building his pyramid.  Schoch, a professor of geology at Boston University, studied the wind-and-rain caused erosion on the body of the Sphinx and compared it with other local statues that could definitely be dated.  He found that the Sphinx was much older than had been thought, probably dating to somewhere between 5,000 and 10,000 BC.”[318]

Norm also mentioned that “understanding the great pyramid would take a lifetime of study.  It is a form of knowledge that was made to be too hard to ignore.  Its potential uses are still undiscovered.  Some of the people who have gone into it when the portal is open have been given fantastic accounts of amazing technology.  Unfortunately the glyphs that would have enabled us to determine when the portal opens have been lost.  It will take a hundred years of careful observation to pin down the cycle.”

“Are there open portals being used even now by humans, or are visitors the only ones who have the keys?  Why, if the doors are physical, can they not be duplicated artificially?”

“A portal usually does not change the physical appearance of a place.  They can be detected because of certain signature frequencies (radiation) that they emit.  They are the result of harmonic convergence’s between dimensions that allow beings to pass between them.  Each universe has its’ own vibration, and even that vibration is not consistent throughout the whole dimension.  The vibrations are not stable; they have a cyclical pulse.  So at times two different dimensions overlap vibrationally at certain points.  A portal is one of those points.  A useful portal is one that happens in a predictable cycle.  For example, the portal behind the Pleiades is open at regular intervals for years, and then stays closed for years.  It opens and closes at predictable intervals and then it always opens a passage where the Dals live and the universe where we live.  In that way it is very stable.  The two universes do not share the same time frame, but that is understood.  A person going from here to there and coming back two years later would find that the Earth had aged considerably more than the two years he or she aged.  The danger in portals is that some do not go to meaningful universes.  Not all universes exist with the same assumptions and principals as ours.”

“How far can a portal take you?”

“Right out of time.  The pyramids were built with a limestone outer layer that was smooth.  The people who stripped that layer had no idea what the pyramid was and no idea what they were destroying.  The pyramid is very sophisticated.  The unprepared could die there.  There isn’t an army on the planet that could survive an assault on the pyramids with any weapon we currently possess.  At the same time, in a sense, the pyramid was built to guard the portal.  But it is also designed to make the portal useful.  Without it, we could not benefit from it, or even discover it.  It will however take some serious religious orders doing some research.  Finding the portal and being able to use it are very different.  The portal shares space with the pyramid, and is accessible from the King’s Chamber.  Standard practice was to use laser tools for cutting items such as the coffer in the King’s Chamber.  Their placement has to do with their purpose.  Without understanding the psychic harmonics of the structures, you can’t understand the math involved”

Norm continued by telling me that, “much of the knowledge of ancient Egypt was imparted to secret societies who were sworn not to misuse the power invested in those designs.  They were destroyed for political reasons by idiots.”

According to a variety of different sources, the Sphinx could have been constructed on the Giza Plateau as far back in time as 30,000 BC.  Edgar Cayce is said to have stated that the Sphinx was constructed by Atlanteans and restored about 12,300 years ago.  In one report, Cayce apparently stated that, “The Sphinx was constructed to remind Man of the pitfalls of modifying nature by mixing with those of animal form (Man’s fall from grace).”  He may also have suggested that “in those days there were half-man/half-animal creatures.  With the second destruction of Atlantis, this site went under water for ages.  Later, when the site was dry once more, the Nile passed alongside this monument.”  Cayce may have claimed that Ararat from the land of Dar, Hermes from the Atlantean land, together with the priest and priestess Ra and Isis, rebuilt this site and added to it.  Its layout contains a library, museums, schools, and other such structures.”[319]

According to many different reports, including Cayce, most of what has been discovered today at Giza is only a small fraction of what lies buried hundreds of feet below the Sphinx.  At one point the Nile during the second reconstruction at the time of the building of the Temple of Light, now called Cheops, was much lower in elevation and passed a few meters from the Sphinx.[320]

In 1992 scientists discovered, through sonar, a chamber beneath the Sphinx’s right front paw.  This is a location where Edgar Cayce predicted a hidden chamber or hall of records would be found.  Gordon-Michael Scallion states that what has been found is the Passageway of the Guardians.  He claims that these are psychic forms, placed there during the last days when the site was sealed in advance of the coming Earth changes.  These Guardians were placed there to repel any access to what lies beyond this chamber, until the time is right.  (Norm’s comments are similar).  “Access would then be gained, and the knowledge necessary for that time, would be given.  From the ante room, or chamber just discovered, access through a tunnel to the archive will be found some 27 meters towards the Nile.  Here will be found the missing apex of the Great Pyramid, not buried as some have thought, but built in its original construction so as to represent wisdom through knowledge.  A small building, other pyramids and chambers are still to be found, containing knowledge of Man’s past, as well as predictions regarding the present, and our near future to 2001.”[321]

Edgar Cayce has also suggested that “10,490-10,390 BC is another possible period for the construction of the Great Pyramid of Giza.  Hermes is said to have been the master builder, in the period of Araaraart and Ra.  The Sphinx is 100 years older (10,500), as is the treasure or storehouse facing it.”[322]

A number of historians have suggested that “although the Great Pyramid is in Egypt, it is not of Egypt,” and may have been built by people other than “Egyptians”.   There have been several attempts to restore and add to that which had been begun on the Sphinx, hence there are many different dates associated with it.

As a matter of general interest, there are two million blocks in the Great Pyramid, some over 13 tons.  At least one theory suggests that it may have taken over 100 years to build.  Within the complex of pyramids at Giza, modernists have asserted that the 1st pyramid is presently attributed to Cheops, the 2nd to Khafre and the 3rd to Mycerinus.  Carbon dates taken from fibers found between the stones of the Great Pyramid indicate an age of 3100 BC to 2850 BC.  The top of the present pyramid appears older than the bottom.  Khufu’s pyramid dates to 2966 (+ or - 50) BC, 390 years older than Khufu’s reign.  There is an inventory Stela indicating that Khufu found both the Isis temple and Sphinx in ruined condition and restored them.[323]

Ground penetrating radar techniques (using sensing modality) have been applied to the Great Pyramid of Giza, the first in 1974 without success.  In 1977 six Egyptian sites were investigated: Giza, Saqqura, Dashur, Alexandria, Tanis, and Thebes.  The techniques used included: resistivity measurements, magnetometery, aerial photography and thermal infra-red imagery.  In 1977 five anomalies or hidden spaces were detected, two in front of the paws of the Sphinx and two indications of a tunnel aligned NW to SE behind the rear paws on the NW end.  Another was detected in the middle of the S side near a square cupola added in Roman times, with a vertical shaft, now filled with rubble.  Further anomalies were found in 1978 at Giza and other sites.  The anomaly technique was used to find the wooden boat chamber anomalies at Thebes, later investigated in 1987.

A photogrammetric study of the Sphinx was completed in 1979.  In Sep 1980, a passage was located and recorded in and under the Sphinx.  Japanese tests in 1986 also determined that there are cavities near the right paw, with a possible tunnel under the Sphinx.  They also found additional cavities in the Great Pyramid in 1986, including a 30m long passage west of the “Queens Chamber.”  Sound ranging equipment using sonar technology has also been tried with at least one new and presently inaccessible chamber recently discovered.

The Great Pyramid contains incredible amounts of geometrical, astronomical and mathematical information.  The following data may be derived from various interpretations of the measurements contained within the pyramid’s structure:

The base perimeter divided by twice the height of the Great Pyramid = 3.1416 (the Value of Pi).  50 pyramid inches = one ten millionth of the earth’s polar axis.  The base perimeter = 356,240 pyramidal inches (number of days in a year).  Its height X 1 (to the 9) = approximate distance of the earth to the sun at autumnal equinox.  The weight of the pyramid X one trillion = approximate weight of the earth.  The base perimeter X 2 = 1 minute of a degree at the equator.  The astral predictions in the pyramids stones began 22 Sep 4000 BC and end 17 Sep 2001 AD (sixth millennium).  The sum of the crossed diagonals of the Great Pyramid = 25,826.6.  A sidereal year = 25,827 earth years.  The 12 constellations of the Zodiac make a complete circle every 25,920 years, changing 1/12 every 2160 years.[324]      

There are all kinds of theories that have been used to attempt to explain the incredible amounts of information possibly related to the pyramids, from magnetic pole reversal to the use of “harmonic vibration” to move the stones in a computer-like assembly.  This could have been similar the method used to assemble the separate spans of the Confederation Bridge which was completed to span the Northumberland Strait between Prince Edward Island and New Brunswick, Canada, in 1997.

Just for general reference, the following are some useful pieces of trivia that a pyramidologist might find useful.  Magnetic reversal of the Earth’s poles may have been caused by the balance of the earth being disturbed due to the increasing weight of ice at the South Pole, which caused the earth to flip over, and start a new spin axis, with a change of polar locations.  The Chandler Wobble is an imbalance in the earth’s rotation.  The poles have probably changed many times in the past, with three changes taking place within the last 100,000 years.  The earth trembles as it spins, which is called nutation.  The last pole change took place about 12,000 years ago.  It had previously been in the Yukon, the Greenland Sea, and Hudson Bay before reaching its present location.  Between 1960 and 1968 the North pole moved 10’.  Distance from the earth to the sun = 92,960,000 miles.  Apollo 11 took 11 hours 10 minutes to 1st Moon orbit.  Jules Verne’s Nautilus took 73 hours 13 minutes to reach the moon 150 years ago.  Harmonic distances have been noted in colours.  The planetary colours are Red-Mars, Yellow-Jupiter, Yellowish green-Saturn, Green-Uranus, Blue-Neptune, and Violet-Pluto.

Another (and most likely) pyramid theory is that the d pyramid served as a stellar observatory by means of which the ancient Egyptian priests were able to make accurate maps and tables of the visible stars from which to create their entire science of astronomy, geography and geodesy.  Once they had obtained what they needed for their astronomical and astrological predictions (and for the secrets of surveying and map making), they may have decided to wall up their instruments so that no one else could know how their lore was obtained.  It is said that the Great Pyramid of Giza houses every mathematical calculation needed for figuring star range, earth latitude and longitude, the diameter of the earth and the thickness of its molten core, as well as the crust above it.  Intended as a storehouse for valuables from Atlantis, it was never used, as Atlantis sank.  Again, according to Edgar Cayce, records preserved in a small chamber not far from the pyramid’s base apparently still exist, within a radius of 87’, deep in the earth not far from the Sphinx.  The Great Pyramid’s calendar is implanted within the measurements of the steps leading to the so-called King’s Chamber, and the Queen’s Chamber is said to have the perfect measurements for deciding the times for communications with other planets.  The passageways between the two chambers record the ages of man upon the earth and predict the total number of years yet remaining before the revolution on the axis near the close of this century.  Other more sophisticated details give the exact location of Giza in relation to the remainder of the world and the planetary system. [325]  There are more tombs, caves and passages beneath Saqqara, Abydos Moeris and Heluan, all built during the period of very ancient dynasties.  Islamic tradition stresses that the Kaaba was also originally a geodetic centre.

It has been said that, “The Anunnaki kept in communication with his chosen people through a radio transmitter receiver named in the Bible as the Ark of the Covenant.  Boulay…saw the Ark as a radio device and thought it significant that the Ark had to be completed according to very precise instructions before the tablets containing the Ten Commandments were placed inside.  The Tablets presumably contained the power source necessary to activate the “receiver-transmitter.”[326]

I have read about other people who have gone back into their memories and recovered enough information to enable them to describe the visitors who guided the building of the pyramids as being eight feet tall and having very long fingers.  All communication was telepathic.  These visitors reportedly had twelve fingers, which may be why we use a 12 inch ruler, 12 months of the year and the figure of a dozen to this day.

“Did these experiencers who went back in to their memories determine whether or not the visitors managed to accomplish all the constructions they intended?  Is this why they left?”

Norm responded again, telling me that, “the pyramids were a gift.  There was a temple order left to manage the pyramid.  It kept its’ secrets and used it for the good of all mankind for almost a thousand years.  Over time, less altruistic rulers put so much pressure on the keepers of the mysteries that they disbanded.”

From my research on the subject, I have read that the ancient Egyptians seem to have had the mathematical ability to analyze curves by dividing the area under a curve into a series of rectangles.  (This is the basic principle of integral calculus so I am told).  In analyzing the curvature of the Earth, they appear to have used rectangles six feet wide.  “How did they achieve this level of accuracy?”

Norm stated that, “They were using alien instrumentation.”

Michael Kurland noted that, “When the Greek historian Herodotus visited Egypt sometime in the 5th century BC, the priests of Thebes told him that 341 generations previously (about 11,340 years the way they enumerated a generation), the gods had lived among men, and had shown them how to do great things, but since then the gods had not returned.  The obvious inference UFO historians make is that these “gods” were extraterrestrial visitors.”[327]

Portals

“The Egyptians established this site as the “navel” of the Earth.  Why?”

“If you could see the Earth’s magnetic field, you would understand the navel concept.  The mystery keepers possessed the higher math’s of the Egyptians, they were not common knowledge and were not publicly accessible.  They were able to draw knowledge from all over the universe through the correct use of the portals, but it took half a lifetime of training to be able to do it.  Novices in the orders had no knowledge of any of this until they were 15 to 20 years into service and known to be of benevolent spirit.  Great efforts were taken to conceal the real meaning of the orders from the base and ordinary folk.  There is no trace left of this knowledge, they were psychically enough advanced to erase even the psychic impressions of their work.”

“It is written within our body-temple that the forces of the cosmos unite as an expression of time and space that spirit works through matter to find the fullest expressions honoring life…In the words of a fragment found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, we are reminded that through our bodies we have “inherited a holy land…this land is not a field to be plowed, but a place within us where we may build our holy temple.”[328]

Norm continued.  “The problem with other portals is (that) they are neither stationary nor permanent.  To describe them, I would have to describe a pattern of movement that takes place over millennia.  Machinery and equipment left in the portal is designed to remotely monitor this planet.  You can watch events happening in different parts of the world in real time.  Or, you can wind backwards and see what events led to a specific event.  You can experience being anywhere in the world as if you were present there, except you can’t talk to anyone or move anything, or be seen.  If you are telepathic, you can give telepathic communication and watch the result.  The time viewers are still there; those that left them for us have better equipment.  It was relatively inefficient for their use, but way ahead of what most of us can imagine.  The healing equipment is light and sound equipment, electrical field devices.  The defensive weapons include a unit that will return fire to anywhere in the world should they employ a certain type of weaponry.  The Russians know all about this.  Their nuclear waste dump in the Urals was ignited after they attempted to test such a weapon.  The uses of the pyramids are at once limitless and incredibly infinite.  The possibilities for misuse so outweigh the possible good uses.  That’s why the incredible secrecy and reluctance on the part of people to delve into these things.”

Back to Norm’s perspective on the pyramid.  “The pyramid is as close as you will come to a permanent portal.  There are a number in the mid-east, but the (great) pyramid is the best.  However, it takes a spiritual person to be able to activate it.  The pyramid also creates a situation where one is able to be aware of this dimension while partially residing in a parallel universe, making all kinds of strange effects possible.  Machinery that has been left there, defensive weapons, time viewers, healing equipment etc. is not in our dimension, but in the bridge between the dimension, right in the portal, itself.  Some people go there and find amazing things; others just find a pyramid.  The frequencies (inside) can be recorded.  They can be charted, graphed, that’s how the portals are first explored.  The danger in portals is that some do not go to meaningful universes.  In some universes, there is nothing human happening.”

Stonehenge and Other Structures

“What can you tell us about the origins of Stonehenge, Avebury, Silbury Hill, the stones at Carnac and other megalithic structures that we may not be aware of?”

Tashni believes that they are “energy points.”  Norm, however, stated that “all such things came with owner’s manuals.  When we recover the technology to accurately view the past, all such mysteries can be recovered.  Where knowledge has been lost it has been lost by the ignorance of men, and only their elevation to a higher state of being can restore these monuments to their former usefulness.”

“Those who have come before us prepared us well for this time in our history.  We have the opportunity to choose a new way in the presence of challenges that appear to be mounting on a daily basis.  We are invited to think and do in our world as those of the heavens do in theirs.  In so doing, we awaken a forgotten technology from the sleep of our collective memory and, at last, bring the conditions of heaven to earth.”[329]

Norm tells us that, “Intelligence is expressing itself in ways we cannot comprehend.  We have a limited number of sensors tuned to our universe.  We cannot even perceive the beings of some of the universes as sentient.  In some they move so slow it would be lifetimes before we discerned any movement.  They might move on a scale like the Earth itself.  The movement might pass so quickly we didn’t notice any movement at all.  Whole civilizations might rise and fall in what to us was a fraction of a second.  It is a very strange sensation being in a portal that is characterized by the anomalies in the senses and sensors.  There are beings out there.”

Reg Miller channels the information that, “of the 128 different sentient forms, many come to visit this planet.  This is a time of great change, and a place to see a living history of what they once were.  They neither help nor hinder.  They do, however, observe and do research.  These visitors are the Traders and the Travelers.  The Traders evolved during the first wave of sentient beings and are 500 times older than humans.  These small, bipedal beings are highly technological.  During the evolution of their technology, an accident destroyed their home planet and all its life forms.  The Traders viewed that violation of creation so seriously that they now constantly search the universe for new life forms, placing the newfound DNA on other planets where it will flourish.  This practice helps insure that nothing goes extinct.  When they take something from a planet, they place something else of equal ecological value.  They are the Traders.  They have learned to create with Primal Energy, creating their own synthetic good, monitoring all things, and navigating throughout the universe.  No other sentient beings can do what the Traders do.”[330]

Reg adds that, “Other sentient beings, however, do travel with the Traders.  Once a Trader Super Mother Ship (SMS) leaps to a new star, these Travelers are allowed to explore planets in scout ships of their own design.  To become a Traveler one must prove to be of the same ecological mind as the Traders, agreeing to do no harm to the animals, and help in dispersing new life forms.  It is by this dispersal process that our primate precursors arrived on suitable planets in other solar systems.”[331]

The “Bermuda Triangle” is enclosed by Bermuda, Puerto Rico and the Bahamas, which roughly equals the Western 1/3 of the Sargasso Sea.  Famous disappearances include the USS Cyclops with a crew of 300 in 1918, and Five US Navy Avengers on 05 Dec 1945, along with a large flying boat sent to their rescue.  The pilots radioed that they were having compass and directional difficulties, and then disappeared.  Compasses spin near the Moselle shoal in the same vicinity.

There is a “Zone of Silence” in Durango, Mexico, where radio transmissions do not pass, and a number of strange and interesting things on our Earth that never seem to have an adequate explanation. Tiahuanaco, Bolivia for example, has docks and quays now sitting at 13,500’ in the Andes, dated at 11,000 years old.  Entire Mountains in Marcahuasi, Peru are carved into animal shapes from ancient times. “What can you tell us about such things as the energy grid, the Bermuda triangle, ley lines, plasmic-vortex phenomena, and the ancient calendars of the Maya’s and others, such as the constructions made of “Cyclopean stones” at Tiahuanaco; Sacsahuaman, Peru; Baalbek, Lebanon; and in Jerusalem, Israel?”

Tashni states that these are also “energy points.”  Norm suggests that “all of these things are explainable.  But nothing is easy.  You need to learn the answers yourself.  Perhaps your wanting to know these things is a clue that you need to get more in touch with more intuitive means of perception.”

Concerning the Bermuda Triangle, Silvia Browne’s guides state that, “There is a similar triangle in Java, and also in the state of Nebraska, strangely enough.  They are holes in the space-time continuum in which time slips.  They were purposefully put there by God, and any intergalactic person knows that they are highways.  Some extraterrestrials used them to get to this planet instead of taking spaceships.  They seem to be the only ones who know how this works…In the past few thousand years, you have lost your knowledge about teleportation.  So what happens now is that people get into these highways and they cannot get out.  It is a slippage….What is amazing about this is that it is a fairly complex navigation; they are more open and visible at certain times of the year, just as certain mountain roads may be closed at certain times of the year due to rain or snow.”[332]

“The Mayan Calendar, or at any rate its present cycle, is due to end on 22 December 2012.”[333]

“What can you tell us about what is stored at Nova Scotia’s Oak Island, how it got there, where it is now and how to gain access to it?”

Tashni tells me that this too is an energy point.  Norm is convinced that in the grand scheme of the other subjects we have discussed that it is “definitely not worth knowing.”  He doesn’t have “a sense of Oak Island being of mystical importance.  It is a puzzle.  It is therefore a lesson.  To understand the puzzle, you must understand what the lesson was.  Look at the big picture.  Don’t just look for the gold or at the timbers.  What is the cosmic intent?  Why was it important to build such a structure?  Discard the importance of greed.”

“Where and what other ancient sites are there here on Earth, that are not now visible, but that would provide interesting information if they were to be unearthed and explored, and are there any specifically located in the Canadian Province of New Brunswick?”

Tashni stated that “they will be visible to those who are ready to see.”  Norm tells me that “even to discuss Earth history would be a monumental task.  To begin to explain the histories of life on other planets would involve some tall tale telling that would fill many arctic winters.  Our speech is useful for our mindset, but a great deal of emotion, experience and sentiment that is common to most other beings is missing from our vocabulary, except as twisted by story tellers and poets.”

“What can you tell us about the ancient and present structures here and on other planets nearby, particularly concerning the artificial structures on the Moon and on the technical marvel of the Sphinx-like face on Mars?”

Tashni suggests that “they are aligned.”  Norm stated that “we will find fantastic structures here on Earth in the future.  Structures that we now cannot even see.  When we understand what we now know about, even more questions will arise.  The answers to these questions will lead to even more questions.  Some structures on Mars and the Moon are man-made, but it is hard to say if they would be recognized as such.  Internet sources have suggested that there are large underground cities in inner-Earth that have been there for a long time.

Lifestyles

“Do you have control over the weather on your planet, and ours?”

Norm confirmed that “most planets control their weather.”

“Do you have regular meals, feeding times and what do you consume?  Do you eat animal flesh, or grains?”

Norm responded by stating that “the food they eat is very condensed and more chemical than organic in some cases.  In certain cases they may absorb food through their skins but this is part of a particular genetic affliction.  It is not a desirable state of being, and would b) much like a human being fed intravenously.”

“Do you have or use animals, birds other creatures for work?  Do you make, build, grow, or have animal pets, or use a low class of creature or people to do work for you?”  More specifically, are you using some of us as pets or have we been put in laboratories for study or in zoos or a cage on display?  None would respond to this question.

“What can you tell us about the hole in the Ozone layer, and can it be repaired?  Does it need repairing?”

Tashni said that this is “happening.”

“Do you know about the end of our world, and will it be as God’s Holy Book says?”

Tashni thought, “no, that this is a book which has been altered.”

“Do you have a Bible, a Holy Guide Book of your past history and how to live the ideal life?”

Tashni stated that this question, “is not relevant.”

Now I have to wonder about this response, in light of the recent discoveries that certainly much of the Old Testament was constructed in code with the use of some sort of super-computer.  “The Bible Code,” as it is now generally known, is the name applied to the sequences of cipher hidden within the original Hebrew Torah (the first five books of the Old Testament, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy), dating back to at least the 13th century BC[334]

“The so-called “Greys” seem to be reported the most often.  Are you one of them?

One replied, “what does it matter?”  I took this to mean a possible yes.

“What about entertainment, such as music, games?”

Norm told me that, “for many visitors, art and music are essential parts of life.  For many the idea of possessions would be foreign.  For many, their sense of joy comes from their sense of interaction within their community.”

What Happens Next?

“What happens next?”

Tashni told me that there would be major, “shifts in consciousness, and a mass awakening.”

“Will you be able to teach us how to improve our lives here, and are there things that we can show you that will improve yours?”

Tashni indicated that, “it happens now.”

“What do most of the visitors do while they are here?”

“Observe,” said Tashni.

“Have many of them had accidents, and how have the crashes been handled?”

Tashni indicated that there had been “more than should have.”  Norm told me that there were “things worse than crashes that can happen during 4-D jumps.  You can materialize ahead of your ship (this experience is generally fatal) and that the closer you are to a gravitational field, the more likely you are to bump into something moving at light speed or above.  There are different levels of technology.  Take the guys portrayed in “Fire in the Sky.”  They are a real primitive species, and no longer in space.  The aim of that particular mission was to provide (collect?) living cell structures but not a living organism.  Highly illegal, but in keeping with the technology available to those people.”  The Roswell situation was apparently an experiment that “was valuable in that exactly what was predicted would happen, happened.  It confirmed the worst case scenario.  We were predictably brutal.”

Norm also pointed out that “in a dimensional shift you “travel” millions of light years instantaneously at 1.6 times the speed of light.  The best strategy is to aim for areas of space that are known to be largely empty and give yourself lots of time to slow down.  In battle you want to jump in close to a formation and warp out again before they have time to shoot, and (then) loop back again for another pass.  Accidents are inevitable.  It is always dangerous to cross dimensions.  Mishaps are not common but...”

“Do we have parallel time lines, and can we view them?”

Norm commented that, “the time lines can be surfed by mystics and prophets.  Great discipline is required to do so, as “freaking out” is not a good thing.”

Questions about the Montauk Project

There is a recurring story, (and for that matter a movie has been made about it), where it has been claimed that the American naval vessel USS Eldridge actually disappeared while the US Navy was conducting radar invisibility experiments at the Philadelphia Navy Yard during the Second World War.  The experiments created an electromagnetic “bottle” which actually diverted radar waves around the ship, changing its electromagnetic field and which in turn surprisingly made the ship invisible (and by one theory, removed it from the space time continuum).  The ship apparently reappeared in Norfolk, Virginia, hundreds of miles away.  The events concerning the ship are usually referred to as the “Philadelphia Experiment.”  Vast research continued on the project well into the late 1940s, culminating with a hole apparently being ripped open through space time at Montauk Point, located on the Eastern end of Long Island, New York, in 1983.  The hole opened a door back to 1943.  As part of this project, it is claimed that a device was developed that could display what a human was thinking.  Sirians and Orions supposedly aided the research.  There is much more to the story than I have space to describe here, but I would like to know what it was all about and what its present status is.

“Are you familiar with the Montauk Project and can you explain what happened to the USS Eldridge?”

Norm came back with; “I don’t know of any way that one can create a field to push a ship of that size into a space or time warp with a propulsion system on a destroyer.  A cross-dimensional jump would create the same effect, but would be extremely unstable and totally unpredictable.  There are other clues that lead me to believe that this is what happened.  It would also be my contention that it was the unpredictability of the process that got it canceled.  There is no way any technology I know of can track, monitor, predict or intervene in a cross-dimensional shift.

Governments and the Visitors

“What kind of arrangements have visitors made with governments on Earth?”

I examined a number of different sites on the Internet to get some answers to this question.  A number of them, including reports from John Lear, provided the following composite view from numerous sources of the events surrounding the presumed “official” government cooperation with the visitors.

Lazar claims that “In 1947, President Truman established a group of 12 of the top military scientific personnel of their time. They were known as MJ-12. Although the group exists today, none of the original members are still alive. The last one to die was Gordon Grey, former Secretary of the Army, in 1984. As each member passed away, the group itself appointed a new member to fill the position. There is some speculation that the group known as MJ-12 expanded to at least several more members.”[335]

Lazar stated that “On April 30, 1964, the first communication between…aliens and the U.S. Government took place at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico. 3 saucers landed at a prearranged area and a meeting was held between the aliens and intelligence officers of the U.S. Government.  During the period of 1969-1971, MJ-12 representing the U.S. Government made a deal with these creatures, called EBE’s (Extraterrestrial Biological Entities, named by Detlev Bronk, original MJ-12 member and 6th President of Johns Hopkins University). The “deal” was that in exchange for “technology” that they would provide to us, we agreed to “ignore” the abductions that were going on and suppress information on the cattle mutilations. The EBE’s assured MJ-12 that the abductions (usually lasting about 2 hours) were merely the ongoing monitoring of developing civilizations.”[336]

According to Lazar, the abductions are taking place for a number of very specific reasons.  These are: “The insertion of a 3mm spherical device (a spherical “probe”) through the nasal cavity of the abductee into the brain.  The device is used for the biological monitoring, tracking, and control of the abductee.  Implementation of Posthypnotic Suggestion to carry out a specific activity during a specific time period, the actuation of which will occur within the next 2 to 5 years.  Termination of some people so that they could function as living sources for biological material and substances.   Termination of individuals who represent a threat to the continuation of their activity.  Effect genetic engineering experiments.  Impregnation of human females and early termination of pregnancies to secure the crossbreed infant.[337]

In many of the hypnotic regressions conducted on women abductees, it was determined that a number of them had unusual terminated pregnancies.  These women had been shown the products of these experiments and experiences, which appeared to be in the form of  “crossbreeds.”   The creatures were usually frail tiny beings with comparatively large heads, thin skin, very thin arms and legs.  Initially, MJ-12 wasn’t aware of the real intent of the Greys and went along with the agreement.  MJ-12 did however, insist that “a list of the abductees be submitted periodically to the National Security Council (NSC) and MJ-12.”  Presumably the visitors have made similar arrangements with other governments, although details of their organization are not known at this time.[338]

Lazar reports that, “The EBE’s have a genetic disorder in that their digestive system is atrophied and not functional. Some speculate that they were involved in some type of accident or nuclear war, or possibly on the back side of and evolutionary genetic curve. In order to sustain themselves they use an enzyme or hormonal secretion obtained from the tissue that they extract from humans and animals.”[339]

He adds that, “The secretions obtained are then mixed with hydrogen peroxide and applied on the skin by spreading or dipping parts of their bodies in the solution.  The body absorbs the solution, then excretes the waste back through the skin.  The cattle mutilations that were prevalent throughout the period from 1973 to 1983 and publicly noted through newspaper and magazine stories…were for the collection of these tissues by the aliens.  The mutilations included genitals taken, rectums cored out to the colon, eyes, tongue, and throat all surgically removed with extreme precision. In some cases the incisions were made by cutting between the cells, a process we are not yet capable of performing in the field. In many of the mutilations there was no blood found at all in the carcass, yet there was no vascular collapse of the internal organs.  This has been also noted in the human mutilations, one of the first of which was Sgt. Jonathan P. Louette at the White Sands Missile Test Range in 1956, who was found three days after an Air Force Major had witnessed his abduction by a “disk shaped” object at 0300 while on a search for missile debris downrange.  His genitals had been removed, rectum cored out in a surgically precise “plug” up to the colon, eyes removed and all blood removed with, again, no vascular collapse. From some of the evidence it is apparent that this surgery is accomplished, in most cases, while the victim, animal or human, is still alive.”[340]

The various parts are taken to various underground laboratories (one is said to be near Dulce, New Mexico, in a 1-km deep cavern).  The bargained for technology is supposedly being tested at Groom Lake, Nevada.  It can only be operated by the visitors, and therefore cannot be used against them.  MJ-12 has long ago realized its mistake in dealing with the visitors, but doesn’t have a solution to the situation.[341]

Milton William Cooper claims that “the military…had for some time been dealing with extraterrestrial beings, which were called “ALFs’ for Alien Life Forms…He claims that “the aliens are from a dying planet circling the star Betelgeuse, (and that they) signed a treaty with President Eisenhower, who went to Edward’s Air Force Base in California to meet them.  This treaty allows them to abduct an occasional human if they return him or her unharmed.  Eventually all the aliens will emigrate to earth and occupy secret underground caverns which are now being prepared in the southwestern United States.”[342]

Ruth Montgomery’s guides stressed that, “there are other life forms on many planets, “both within and without your galaxy.”…the same God created all, but different kinds of life forms developed in various areas of the universe.  “Some of the planets are vastly more advanced that Earth and were created much earlier…Their beings do not resemble the human form, and some are vastly more developed in science and technology than Earthlings.  Other planets trail behind Earth in their development, but it is the advance ones whose inhabitants have been visiting Earth, or at least keeping tabs on it.  Many are aware of the upcoming shift through their advanced measurements, and that has piqued their interest.”[343]

Concerning secrets, all governments have them.  The government of the United States for example, has been accused of covering up secrets concerning the visitors.  This has extended to what can only be determined to be “beyond curious.”  According to Whitley Strieber, in the late 1970s physicist Stanton T. Friedman “precipitated along with the Citizens against UFO Secrecy (CAUS)” an investigation into a possible U.S. government cover-up on the subject.  Under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), “CAUS asked to obtain UFO information from the CIA.  The CIA claimed that it had none.  After the demand was made through federal Judge Gerhard Gesell, the CIA produced documents, some of which suggested that other agencies, including the National Security Agency (NSA), also had files.  (“The CIA admitted finding over 900 pages of material concerning UFOs and released a list of 57 documents originating with other agencies, including the State Department and the DIA and 18 from the NSA.  The NSA, when taken to court and forced to do a search, admitted finding 239 UFO documents with 79 originating with other agencies, including 23 from the CIA, which somehow hadn’t found them when doing its initial search.”)[344]

A request to the NSA for its documents was turned down.  Further court action elicited none of the 156 documents which were withheld.  CAUS then asked Gesell to request to see the documents that he might rule on the legality of the NSA’s actions.  Incredibly, the NSA refused even to do this.  Instead, it produced an affidavit saying why they should be kept secret.”[345]

“To read this affidavit, Gesell had to be security cleared Above Top Secret.  When he had read the affidavit, the judge agreed that nobody should be allowed to read the documents – not even himself!  When the issue was brought before the Court of Appeals, that tribunal concurred with Gesell and the NSA that they didn’t need to know…Whatever was in that affidavit was so convincing that they agreed without question to continue the cover-up.”  Obviously, “those documents contain information that is spectacularly and incredibly secret.”[346]

Lazar has additional government cover-up information that is of interest.  He has reported that, at one point, MJ-12 apparently had three living aliens in their custody, “designated EBE1, EBE2, and EBE3.  They were being held in a facility designated as YY-II at Los Alamos, New Mexico.”  Another similar facility is said to exist at Edward’s Air Force Base in Mojave, California.  The National Security Agency (NSA) is reported by Lazar to be working on Project Aquarius (dealing with the subject of communication with visitors) and Project SNOWBIRD (a project to test fly visitor’s flying craft at Groom Lake, Nevada).  Underground visitor bases reportedly include Archuleta Mesa, about 2.5 miles NW of Dulce, New Mexico, Kirtland AFB, Holloman AFB, Groom Lake, Sunspot, Datil, Pietown, Northern Nevada, and Roswell among others, and RAF Bentwaters in England.[347]  Knowing a number of personnel who have actually worked at these sites, none of them have ever substantiated any of this Internet data.  Meanwhile, the reported truth about the intention of the Greys is that they intend to stay here and stay in control of our world.

Reg Miller’s guides informed him that, “Around the world there are many bases used by the Pleiadians and other Travelers.  Some are accessed through underwater portals and others through portals in remote mountainous regions.  Tunnels connect the bases.  The longest is several thousand miles long.  The Pleiadian’s purpose is to observe and do scientific research, but not to help the Earth humans through catastrophic times.  Observing what happens on Earth is a living history lesson and reminder of what occurred in their past.”[348]

MJ-12

The details that have been discovered about the Majestic Twelve (MJ-12) Group are reported to be as follows:  In July 1947, a US Government working group was apparently established by General George C. Marshall, to examine and study the Roswell-Magdalena UFO crash recovery and debris.  It was also set up to investigate the increasing incidents of visitors and to devise a method of dealing with them.  MJ-12 is said to be the unseen group that oversees offices set up to analyze and duplicate the technologies recovered from the disks.  The original members were identified as “Admiral Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter, Dr. Vannevar Bush, Secretary James Forestall, General Nathan P. Twining, General Hoyt S. Vandenburg, Dr. Detlev Bronk, Dr. Jerome Hunsaker, Mr. Sidney W. Souers, Mr. Gordon Grey, Dr. Donald Menzel, General Robert M. Montague, and Dr. Lloyd V. Berkner.”  Most have died since the inception of MJ-12, some of the most recent sitting members may be: General Walter Bedel Smith, Dr. Henry Kissinger, Dr. Teller [father of the H-bomb], Bobby Inman and Admiral Poindexter, Harold Brown, Richard Helms, General Vernon Walters and Von Karmon are mentioned as possible present members of MJ-12).[349]

The ongoing collective perception of those who follow this line of thought is that sometime between 1947 and 1951, actual contact between the government and the Greys was unexpectedly made.

Tidal Wave of Light

Barbara Marciniak spoke of a coming “Galactic Tidal Wave of Light.”  She stated that one should “Let your intuitive self become your authority.  Allow your intuitive self to be the standard bearer of your experience which is experience no one else is going to validate.  Your experience springs from the assignment that you are knowing, and not necessarily remembering you are on.  If you approach all that you know with the stance that there is divine order and divine purpose, without your ego aspect comprehending it all the time, you will move rapidly through realities.  There will be many different ways this galactic tidal wave of light will be experienced.  Definitely it will catapult everyone into some exaggerated version of their greatest opportunity.  That of course is each person’s choice.”[351]

David Koerner and Simon LeVay of SETI have stated that, “Our belief, though, is that the search will be rewarded, and soon.  No argument is conclusive, and we may be influenced more than we realize by tribal yearnings.  But the trail of discovery hangs heavy with the scent of life.  What will we find?  Who knows?  Dragons surely not, but maybe something more outlandish.  Humans surely not, but maybe someone wiser.”[352]

A Tear in the Fabric

“In Feynman’s formation of quantum mechanics, an object be it a particle or a string, travels from one location to another by “sniffing out” all possible trajectories.  The resulting motion that is observed is a combination of all possibilities, with the relative contributions of each possible trajectory precisely determined by the mathematics of quantum mechanics.  Should a tear in the fabric of space occur, then among the possible trajectories of traveling strings are those that encircle the tear…Even if no strings seem to be near the tear when it occurs, quantum mechanics takes account of physical effects from all possible string trajectories and among these are numerous (infinite in fact) protective paths that encircle the tear.  It is these contributions that Witten showed precisely to cancel out the cosmic calamity that the tear would otherwise create.”[353]

Change

“Every once in a while the existing “order” is overturned quickly through the simultaneous individual actions of many (the fall of the Berlin Wall and the Iron Curtain, for example), or more often by the slower pace of individual actions.  However, in all instances change comes from individual actions.  The smoothness or the chaos is determined by the foundational values and the prominence that these values have in the individual participants.  The need to focus on “values” first, then “mission” and then “means” is required…Every change rests with individuals deciding to do something different in the areas they can effect, based on where they are at the moment.  Change does not require any other external motivator.”[354]

Acorn Sends

This is the end of this particular series of interviews, and more will follow in the near future.  In the meantime, perhaps you have come up with a list of questions of your own.  Good luck in your search for answers, keep an open but skeptical mind, and bear in mind that there are good reasons for understanding that “we are not alone.”

Cheers, Acorn sends.

Never Fear

“I must not fear.  Fear is the mind-killer.  Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.  I will face my fear.  I will permit it to pass over me and through me.  And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.  Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.  Only I will remain.”[355]  Bene Gesserit rite.

“Never fear your journey ahead, for as God has watched over you all your life and, in spite of your fears, has brought you through all the trials and sorrows of your life, so God will take you through the darkest vale, into the light.”[356]

Epilogue

To bring this book to a close with a look to the future, I asked the guides through Donna once again about their prediction that the earth changes would come sometime in the near future.  “Can you tell me more on how this will come about and what will be left?”

“You cannot prepare anyone for them, they must occur as they are to occur, one piece at a time…The changes may not be as intense as first suggested.  Much has changed on the planet, and light is being collected at an exponential rate.  Changes will be more intense for (some), less intense for others.  It depends on their…scope, their adaptability.”

And there it is.  Change.  Watch then, for it is the only thing that is constant.  Harold sends.

Afterword

I had one more question for Tashni’s guides.  “Now that the story is out, do you have any comments on what it will do?”

“The journal will serve to join - link many peoples who at this time feel they are alone.  As these messages get dispersed within your world, more and more will see the messages and in time be more open to our words.  All writings provided to the larger groups serve this purpose.  It is the word, or turn of phrase that often begins the activation process.  In this one, many have been activated by the words used.  We all need that switch for memories.   So as you record these things and other messages that you receive, so it shall be placed together and given to the larger group of peoples.   In time, these messages will form critical mass and it shall pass that the peoples of earth will move with grand Terra.  Our work will be done.  As you often say in your world, “nothing is by chance.”  So shall these writings be."

Perhaps there is more to follow.  Perhaps, in the next book.

Conclusions

As a military parachutist and sport skydiver, I have had a life-long interest in the world of aviation.  I have also learned that you should never land in an airplane if you don’t want to die in one.  (I have two parachutes and you have only one aircraft with a lot more working parts that can go wrong).  Even the visitors know this or the Roswell incident would never have happened. As an army officer deployed on a number of missions overseas, I had the occasion to witness first hand the extremes of man’s humanity to his fellow man, and his occasional drifts at times into inhumanity.  The visitors have good reasons to mistrust us.  I would like, however, to be part of the bridge-building that may be needed to establish that necessary trust.  I served with the United Nations forces in Cyprus.  In Bosnia, I participated with 39 other countries in a NATO-led Peace Stabilization Force (SFOR) whose primary mission was to ensure that “this day nobody dies.” It was the same with my team in the Kabul Multi-National Brigade in Afghanistan.  It has been an incredible honour to have been part of something with the “greater good” as its reason for being.

My conclusion is that the visitors are here and they are watching.  Mutual respect is required to ensure that we “move ahead,” in our relationships with the visitors.  Grant that we do some good and “make a difference,” whatever results from their visits.

Walk in the Light.  Acorn sends.

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UFO Crash, New Mexico, 6 July 1947

Observations and assessments by Private James W. Smith, 414th Fighter Group, as documented by his son Shawn G. Smith, 26 Jan 2010.  Reviewed 11 March 2021.

In the summer of 1947, James was a US Army Air Force (USAAF) airman undergoing Reserve training on the 4th of July weekend at Fort Worth Air Force Base (AFB), Texas.  At that time, he was an aviation mechanic qualified to work on early jets.  On the 6th of July (his birthday), he was ordered to take a Redeye flight to New Mexico as one of a group of aircrew.  The aircraft they flew on was a Douglas C-54 Skymaster, a four-engined transport aircraft used by the USAAF in the Second World War.  A second C-54 and two fighter aircraft accompanied them.  A USAAF Brigadier General was also onboard.

James noted the atmosphere on the aircraft was tense, as they were accompanied by two Military Police (MP) armed with Thompson .45 cal sub-machine guns.  He spoke with them to try and determine what the mission was about.  The MPs thought they were investigating the crash of a Russian jet that had gone down on US soil.

On arrival at Roswell AFB in New Mexico, the group was taken in trucks and jeeps to a remote location in the central part of the state.  Other MPs were already at the site, and the convoy was stopped until the General gave the OK for them to proceed.  James stated that at the site, he saw “the scattered remains of some sort of crashed aircraft…different from other crashes” he had seen.

James had studied jet propulsion.  He had trained as a mechanic on the Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star, the first jet fighter used operationally by the USAAF.  The General knew this, and asked James to take a look, to see “what he could make of it.”  James noted, “nothing resembled the shape of a conventional aircraft or rocket.  There were thick pieces of relatively undamaged metal framework, and many smaller, thinner pieces of what looked like fuselage…all made of a strange metal alloy...Some of the pieces were oxidized and looked as if they had been subjected to a very high heat.”

He added, “there were no discernable seams, welds, or rivets anywhere in the wreckage…it looked as if the entire craft had been molded in one piece…There were what looked like small lights and long solid plastic pieces”, of what he called “spaghetti”, that “were not wires or tubes, with no apparent function.”  There were “strange characters cast into some of the pieces, a type of writing…but only on the inside of the craft.  There were no markings on the outside.  There were…formed metal child-sized reclining seats, with indentations for head, body, arms, and legs, including hand-shaped indentations with spaces for six fingers.  There were no bodies in the wreckage.”

James stated, “the recovered wreckage was flown in the two C-54 transports back to Fort Worth AFB, Texas, again with two fighter escorts.  Three small bodies (were) packed in ice (and) loaded aboard the aircraft.  Everyone took a look at them.”  James was told, “they had been the occupants of the crashed craft.”  He was able to examine the bodies, and made the following observations:

1. They were humanoid, with a head, two arms, two legs, two eyes, a mouth, and a nose.
2. They had no ears and no teeth.
3. They were small and frail, with unusually large heads.
4. They had large eyes, but no eyelids.
5. They had no genitalia.
6. They had six fingers on each hand.
7. They had skin like a shark.
8. They were the perfect size and shape to fit into the formed metal reclining seats he had seen in the wreckage.

Upon arrival at Forth Worth AFB, the wreckage and bodies were immediately loaded upon another transport, and under heavy guard, were flown to another location (possibly Washington, D.C.).  James heard a rumour that a fourth body had been recovered separately later and was sent along with the rest of what was recovered.  All personnel who had taken part in the operation were debriefed and ordered to sign a non-disclosure agreement (NDA) under severe penalties for speaking about the event.

James noted that, although they were forbidden to speak about the subject outside the circle, the “insiders” did speak often and freely among themselves.  He continued to “follow u” and gathered information on the subsequent developments.  Those involved formed a fraternity surrounding the recovery events they had experienced.  He kept a record of the things he learned in the following years:

1. The wreckage was taken to a hangar and carefully re-assembled. It was saucer shaped.  Many pieces were missing.  Some had been taken as souvenirs, and not all were recovered.
2. The writing inside the craft was never decoded.
3. When electrical currents were applied to the pieces of the craft themselves, and the materials found within it, they would change shapes and exhibit strange properties.
4. It was determined that the frame and fuselage of the craft incorporated built in wiring and circuitry that was invisible to the naked eye, somehow arranged perfectly, atom-by-atom, within the metal.
5. It was determined that the craft itself and all materials it held, had somehow been “grown” as singular pieces on a molecular level, crystal-by-crystal, one molecule at a time. The materials were perfectly arranged in geometric lattice patterns, with molecular alignment, creating unusual alloys and amalgams with properties not found in natural materials.  James noted, “our best scientists were unable to reproduce the materials or determine how they had been made.”
6. The creatures (his term) recovered at the crash site had circulatory systems, and no digestive organs. It was determined that they somehow absorbed nutrients through their skin.
7. The creatures had unusually large brains with four hemispheres separated by bony plates and an extraordinarily large amount of sensory nerve tissue throughout their bodies, arranged in specific patterns.
8. The creatures were connected to the craft through a form of wireless technology and formed an integral part of the craft. The creatures and the craft functioned as a single unit.  The creatures were neither occupant nor passengers in the craft, per se, but rather they were an operational part of the craft itself.  They were far more than mere pilots.
9. The creatures were biologically engineered robots manufactured for a specific function and were merely another component of the craft. They were grown in a laboratory, using similar methods as the other materials.  Their flesh and bones exhibited molecular alignment, like the other materials, and were unusually tough and resilient.
10. It was determined that the creatures were not representative of the physical appearance and biological type of the beings who designed and built the craft. They were merely drones or machines and the creators of this technology were believed to be considerably different physiologically.
11. There was no propulsion unit within the craft. At first, it was believed that the propulsion unit was destroyed in the crash, but it was later determined that propulsion was provided by the creatures themselves, as an “advanced form of telekinesis”. The minds of the creatures themselves, were the propulsion and navigation units.
12. It was determined that the brains of the creatures served as on-board computers for the craft.
13. It was determined that the craft and its components functioned through a type of non-physical energy which we do not yet have access to, an energy apparently harnessed and controlled by the minds of the creatures.
14. It was determined that the energy that powered, controlled, and propelled the craft was a form of focused consciousness or thought power.
15. It was determined that the cause of the crash was lightning striking the craft. The lightning apparently incapacitated one of the creatures, which somehow created an imbalance in the forces that propelled the craft, tearing it apart. The craft could not function properly without all the creatures acting in perfect unison.
16. The origin of the craft was never determined. It was believed to have originated from one of three sources, a) another planet within the Milky Way galaxy, or another galaxy in this universe, b) a planet in another dimension, or c) from the earth’s own distant future.
17. It was determined that the craft was able to travel and maneuver faster than the speed of light. It was able to virtually dematerialize and rematerialize instantly, moving from one location to another in this manner while defying the known laws of physics. It was determined that the craft could travel many light years in an instant, by somehow traveling in a “bubble” of space time, or “warping” or “folding” the space time around it and “jumping” through dimensions.  It was determined that it possessed the capability to travel inter-dimensionally and was believed to be able to travel forward and backward in time as well.
18. Attempts were made to reverse engineer all the technology discovered within the craft, with only limited success.
19. Another identical craft had been recovered intact, but it was never made functional. The craft would not function without the presence of the creatures, which were the crucial operating component of the machine.
20. Efforts to clone the creatures have been made without success.

James noted, “the secrets of the discs were feasible technologies that humans could and would one day master”.  His son Shawn stated his father, “had a lifelong drive to understand how the craft functioned and to reproduce the technology, noting, “work was being done to reproduce their propulsion system”.

Project RAMP

Project RAMP is a report describing the propulsion system of the recovered discs and efforts to duplicate it.  The report includes “details of the advanced form of telekinesis” generated by the creatures as propulsion and how it was believed to work.  The information contained in these documents is the key to reproducing the propulsion technology of the craft.  Development of this technology will lead to unlimited applications in every segment of society.  (1973)

Discussion with Kathleen Marden Kathleen

I wrote to Kathleen to discuss Visitors, and asked her about her interviews with those who claim to have been in contact. I wanted to know if she had compiled a list of the types of beings they have encountered. I have been building a list you have seen here, of the different kinds of Visitors reported for a number of years, which I use to help sift the ones who are pretending to have had an encounter, from those who have had an actual experience.  I asked her to review the list and confirm those she believed were legitimate and to advise on the ones she thought were imaginary.

She wrote back to say,

I think that this might answer your question. The statistics are derived from MUFON's Experiencer Research Study. The responses from the phase 2 survey respondents are hardly worth calculating, but I have done so as a simple indicator of the responses for those who might be interested. All statistics have been rounded off.

The results are as follows:

Visitor description. Survey Takers N: 342. “abductee group”: N: 15. “contactee group”: N: 16.

Under 4’ Grey, 3.6%, 20%, 19%.

4’5”-5’5” Grey, 44%, 40%, 50%.

Above 5’5” Grey, 30%, 33%, 27%.

Mantis Insectoid, 16%, 20%, 25%.

Other Insectoid, 5%, 0%, 5%.

Lizard Reptilian, 13%, 20%, 6%.

Alligator Reptilian, 3%, 6%, 0%.

Draconian Reptilian, 7%, 13%, 0%.

Tiny Human Type, 7%, 0%, 6%.

Average Human Type, 26%, 27%, 6%.

Giant Human Type, 7%, 7%, 13%.

Hybrids, 20%, 27%, 19%.

Tall Whites, 17%, 7%, 25%.

Tall Goldens, 7%, 7%, 0%.

Tall Blues, 5%, 7%, 0%.

Short Blues, 6%, 7%, 0,%.

Sasquatch, 4%, 7%, 0%.

    In addition to the nonhuman entity types listed on the chart above, several groups were listed in smaller numbers. They include light beings, blue humanoid avians, cat-like beings, shadow beings, and black cloaked beings. The Greys were the most predominant entities encountered by all groups of experiencers. They were followed by average human types, mantis insectoids, and hybrids. Experiencers have reported observing Greys and Mantis type entities working together in the same alien environment. Some researchers have speculated that the reason the Greys and Mantis Insectoid types work together is because they are different races of the same species. The Mantis types are said to be more highly evolved than the average Greys. It has been reported across all NHI research that the small Greys hold subservient roles as assistants and guards.

    The phase 2 “abductee group” reported observing a higher incidence of average Greys, hybrids and average human types. There was an elevated level of average and tall Greys, tall whites and hybrids among the phase 2 “contactee group.”

Best wishes,

Kathleen